[Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested

Cheryl Langdon-Orr langdonorr at gmail.com
Sun Sep 2 05:41:37 HKT 2012 

Exactly Paul EXACTLY
On Sep 2, 2012 1:44 AM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:

>
> I think it is important to agree that, although there have been
> discussions, nothing is decided.  It does seem time for APrIGF to adopt
> some clear processes for host/venue selection, as well as for renewal of
> the MSG, and as Peng Hwa says, this is a test case for those processes.
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
>
> On 02/09/2012, at 12:15 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>
> > Fouad,
> >
> > Nothing has been decided yet.
> >
> >
> > This would be the test case for us in helping us set up rules on how to
> > decide in the event of competing bids.
> >
> > Peng Hwa
> >
> > On 1/9/12 6:12 PM, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> True Prof Ang, but IMHO, India also hosted the IGF in Hyderabad in
> >> 2008 and an ICANN meeting. South Korea should be given the opportunity
> >> if there is an interest from them prior to India. I know there are
> >> certain concerns around participation and increase multistakeholder
> >> participation as well as balance of govts, civil society, academia,
> >> private sector and research but there is also a need to check with the
> >> first proposal. It may be prudent to inquire from KISA if they are
> >> interested or not prior to spending time on the Indian proposal.
> >>
> >> Can we check with the South Koreans if they are still backing their
> >> proposal? If yes, then India can be next year's host, if not, India
> >> can be this year's host? I would prefer giving countries with lesser
> >> IGF related activities more participation opportunity.
> >>
> >> At the multilateral level, India's and BRIC's proposals with regards
> >> to IG have seem to have created a stir in the recent past and there
> >> may be more need to bring countries into the IGF loop like South Korea
> >> etc that should also increase participation in Internet discussions
> >> but these are just some quick thoughts before i log off.
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Foooo
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>
> >> wrote:
> >>> The issue is not the commitment from Korea. The issue is that there is
> a
> >>> counter-offer.
> >>>
> >>> On 1/9/12 3:23 PM, "Wu Kuo" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I will try to ask Dr. Sir who is the person showing the interest. I
> >>>> guess
> >>>> I can meet him sometime in ICANN Toronto or IGF Baku meeting. If any
> of
> >>>> you can access him, please help too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kuo Wu
> >>>>
> >>>> Fouad Bajwa 於 2012/9/1 下午3:15 寫道：
> >>>>
> >>>>>> From interaction with some other colleagues, I was of the notion
> that
> >>>>> South Korea was pledging to organize the APrIGF and KISA was
> >>>>> supposedly going to manage it. I recall KISA also helped in
> organizing
> >>>>> an ICANN meeting in Seoul in 2009 and hosted the OECD Ministerial on
> >>>>> the future of the Internet Economy in 2008. Have these commitments
> >>>>> changed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards.
> >>>>> --------------------------
> >>>>> Fouad Bajwa
> >>>>> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
> >>>>> My Blog: Internet's Governance:
> >>>>> http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/
> >>>>> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Rajnesh D. Singh <singh at isoc.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Peng Hwa et al,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I won't be in Baku, but will arrange a representative from the ISOC
> >>>>>> APAC
> >>>>>> office to be present at the discussion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Raj
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>> From: "Paul Wilson" <pwilson at apnic.net>
> >>>>>> To: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>
> >>>>>> Cc: "APrIGF PC" <program at ap.rigf.asia>
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:33:59 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Peng Hwa.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will be in Baku, and I would very much like to discuss the
> >>>>>> evolution
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> APrIGF, including the selection processes for host/venue, and for
> the
> >>>>>> MSG.
> >>>>>> I don't feel that the criticisms of past performance are warranted
> or
> >>>>>> particularly relevant, but I do think that we should continue
> >>>>>> development of
> >>>>>> clear and open processes for both of these.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Very happy to join a discussion with you all in Baku.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All the best
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Paul.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 31/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just two
> >>>>>>> of us.
> >>>>>>> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
> >>>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>>> out. That was Wednesday.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
> >>>>>>> Government of
> >>>>>>> India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed interest to host the
> >>>>>>> 2013
> >>>>>>> APrIGF in India. Some people here at the APNIC conference seem to
> >>>>>>> suggest
> >>>>>>> that India would make a better choice. The South Asia region would
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>> likely to attend.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
> >>>>>>> prompt the
> >>>>>>> South Koreans to respond.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
> >>>>>>> opportunity
> >>>>>>> to iron out the civil society process issues. But it would be best
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>> the bid documents out and then get a firm decision at Baku in early
> >>>>>>> November. Having lived in India, I am a bit concerned that they may
> >>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>> more time should they win the bid.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Peng Hwa
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards.
> >> --------------------------
> >> Fouad Bajwa
> >> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
> >> My Blog: Internet's Governance:
> http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/
> >> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
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