[Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
Paul Wilson
pwilson at apnic.net
Sat Sep 1 23:44:18 HKT 2012
I think it is important to agree that, although there have been discussions, nothing is decided. It does seem time for APrIGF to adopt some clear processes for host/venue selection, as well as for renewal of the MSG, and as Peng Hwa says, this is a test case for those processes.
Paul.
On 02/09/2012, at 12:15 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
> Fouad,
>
> Nothing has been decided yet.
>
>
> This would be the test case for us in helping us set up rules on how to
> decide in the event of competing bids.
>
> Peng Hwa
>
> On 1/9/12 6:12 PM, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> True Prof Ang, but IMHO, India also hosted the IGF in Hyderabad in
>> 2008 and an ICANN meeting. South Korea should be given the opportunity
>> if there is an interest from them prior to India. I know there are
>> certain concerns around participation and increase multistakeholder
>> participation as well as balance of govts, civil society, academia,
>> private sector and research but there is also a need to check with the
>> first proposal. It may be prudent to inquire from KISA if they are
>> interested or not prior to spending time on the Indian proposal.
>>
>> Can we check with the South Koreans if they are still backing their
>> proposal? If yes, then India can be next year's host, if not, India
>> can be this year's host? I would prefer giving countries with lesser
>> IGF related activities more participation opportunity.
>>
>> At the multilateral level, India's and BRIC's proposals with regards
>> to IG have seem to have created a stir in the recent past and there
>> may be more need to bring countries into the IGF loop like South Korea
>> etc that should also increase participation in Internet discussions
>> but these are just some quick thoughts before i log off.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Foooo
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>
>> wrote:
>>> The issue is not the commitment from Korea. The issue is that there is a
>>> counter-offer.
>>>
>>> On 1/9/12 3:23 PM, "Wu Kuo" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will try to ask Dr. Sir who is the person showing the interest. I
>>>> guess
>>>> I can meet him sometime in ICANN Toronto or IGF Baku meeting. If any of
>>>> you can access him, please help too.
>>>>
>>>> Kuo Wu
>>>>
>>>> Fouad Bajwa 於 2012/9/1 下午3:15 寫道：
>>>>
>>>>>> From interaction with some other colleagues, I was of the notion that
>>>>> South Korea was pledging to organize the APrIGF and KISA was
>>>>> supposedly going to manage it. I recall KISA also helped in organizing
>>>>> an ICANN meeting in Seoul in 2009 and hosted the OECD Ministerial on
>>>>> the future of the Internet Economy in 2008. Have these commitments
>>>>> changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Fouad Bajwa
>>>>> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
>>>>> My Blog: Internet's Governance:
>>>>> http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/
>>>>> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Rajnesh D. Singh <singh at isoc.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Peng Hwa et al,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't be in Baku, but will arrange a representative from the ISOC
>>>>>> APAC
>>>>>> office to be present at the discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Raj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: "Paul Wilson" <pwilson at apnic.net>
>>>>>> To: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>
>>>>>> Cc: "APrIGF PC" <program at ap.rigf.asia>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:33:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Peng Hwa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be in Baku, and I would very much like to discuss the
>>>>>> evolution
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> APrIGF, including the selection processes for host/venue, and for the
>>>>>> MSG.
>>>>>> I don't feel that the criticisms of past performance are warranted or
>>>>>> particularly relevant, but I do think that we should continue
>>>>>> development of
>>>>>> clear and open processes for both of these.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very happy to join a discussion with you all in Baku.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just two
>>>>>>> of us.
>>>>>>> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>> out. That was Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
>>>>>>> Government of
>>>>>>> India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed interest to host the
>>>>>>> 2013
>>>>>>> APrIGF in India. Some people here at the APNIC conference seem to
>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> that India would make a better choice. The South Asia region would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> likely to attend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
>>>>>>> prompt the
>>>>>>> South Koreans to respond.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>> to iron out the civil society process issues. But it would be best
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> the bid documents out and then get a firm decision at Baku in early
>>>>>>> November. Having lived in India, I am a bit concerned that they may
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> more time should they win the bid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Peng Hwa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> Regards.
>> --------------------------
>> Fouad Bajwa
>> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
>> My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/
>> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
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