[Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal

Thu May 9 12:54:16 HKT 2013

Thanks Adam for your insights. I agree that it all feels a lot rushed, as Markus requested a proposal for next week to be presented to the MAG.

Will Cheryl sent the proposal? Will you? Hope someone does, soon.

I agree with your comment about the national/subregional IGFs, hopefully all coordinators will have the chance to be involved.

All the best,

Sylvia

From: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>>
Date: Wednesday, 8 May 2013 10:45 PM
To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net<mailto:sylvia at apnic.net>>
Cc: APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia<mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>>
Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal

Hi all,

It seems the MAG has got into a bit of a panic over this.

I think we should support the process (thank you Cheryl!) but at the
same time send the text that came from discussions on our last call to
the open IGF consultation (hope those who will be in Geneva will speak
to it).  Send the text to the MAG organized mailing list as well.

At this stage I wouldn't make the regional meetings the absolute focal
points.  For example, we haven't had any discussions about using the
APrIGF to aggregate issues from any national or sub-regional IGFs.
Until things are clearer, leave it as all coordinators are equal.  How
the session is arranged can then come from agreement among the
coordinators and their groups, rather than MAG.

Best,

Adam

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net<mailto:sylvia at apnic.net>> wrote:
Dear Cheryl and APrIGF PC,

I'm in Medellín at the Lacnic 19 meeting. I've just had lunch with Ricardo
Pedraza, Valeria Betancourt and Julián Casasbuenas to talk about how the
regional/national IGFs will report/contribute to the global IGF. As you
know, Ricardo has been appointed to coordinate the working group to come up
with a proposal about how the regional/national IGFs session/track should be
conducted. A mailing list has been created, but no one besides Ricardo has
subscribed to it up until today
(http://mail.wgig.org/mailman/listinfo/regionaltrack_intgovforum.org). Hope
you have already subscribed. This group has only one week to put something
together before the MAG meeting, with a lot of other meetings in between, so
I believe it will be really important to share the proposal that Adam put
together and we discussed. I'm happy to help you with this, if need it.

At lunch, the ideas they shared (most of them in agreement with our
proposal) are:

* To prepare prior to the global IGF, regional reports (that articulate the
national events) using a common template and circulate it
* To have roundtable/working session at the beginning of the IGF agenda,
where regional IGFs will work to identify common topics, challenges and
discuss methodological approaches that support the discussion, is open for
remote participation, open consultation, responding to the people not in the
room
* To use the format already in place at the IGF for the cross-cutting themes
as a tool to identify/monitor/capture contributions and topics raised at the
regional IGFs and how they are incorporated into workshops and main sessions
* To use the taking-stock mechanism to report back to the plenary and move
the discussions forward
* To identify a mechanism to bring the discussion from the global IGF back
to the regional spaces to keep moving forward
* They think that this space should focus on the regional IGFs and that the
national/subregional IGFs should find ways to interact with the regional
ones, considering the large amount of national IGFs conducted in Europe and
how difficult it will be on a roundtable to go into that level of detail.
Although they acknowledge that can cause difficulties/challenges to the rIGF
organizers. Of course, if a methodological solution can be found about how
to be able to realistically incorporate the national IGFs into this process.

Hope this contributes to the discussion on this space :)

All the best,

Sylvia

From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, 8 May 2013 5:12 PM
To: Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41 at gmail.com<mailto:weaker41 at gmail.com>>

Cc: APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia<mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>>
Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal

I trust it will help this discussion and our APrIGF purposes on this, that I
can let you all know that yesterday I was formally invited to join this
email discussion list and I accepted...

So as a non MAG member I am very happy to take our proposal formally to it
for discussion along with any others of you in the same situation as I now
find myself in...

Adam is there any modifications to the previously circulated text, based on
the ensuing list discussions?  If so (or not) let me know ASAP, and can this
list/group  agree that they wish me to proceed with presenting our proposal
and annotate our desires/ aims  based on discussions on this list and our
recent APrIGF organising meetings please...

CLO from my Mobile phone

On 08/05/2013 9:47 PM, "Shreedeep Rayamajhi" <weaker41 at gmail.com<mailto:weaker41 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes Adam its not open,MAG has its own circle of limited people advocating
the issue of the developed nation, we need to push and identify the areas of
improvement as suggested by Sylvia. In-fact a proposal from APrIGF could be
a new voice of ASIA in regards for the future

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On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>> wrote:

I'm not sure that it's open to all involved in national and regional
IGFs, so far it seems mainly MAG and a few invited people.  And the
task of the group the MAG's setting up "is to come up with a concept
on how best to integrate the regional/national IGF initiatives in a
meaningful way into the programme for Bali."   I think a proposal from
APrIGF would be helpful in substance and also to open the work up
beyond the MAG.

Adam

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com<mailto:fouadbajwa at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I believe that a mailing list has been created by the IGF secretariat
> focusing on regional IGF coordination that can be joining by the people
> involved with regional IGF meetings and want to report back or provide
> feedback to the IGF.
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>> wrote:
>>
>> The MAG is now discussing how to include national and regional IGFs in
>> the Bali meeting.  Suggestion so far is for a coordinating group, led
>> by MAG members.  I suggest we still submit a proposal about a session
>> and have updated the draft I sent after our last call.  Sylvia, hope I
>> caught and included your comments.
>>
>> Do we have a call on Friday?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> Proposal for a National and Regional IGF session at Bali IGF.
>> Contribution from the APrIGF multi-stakeholder steering committee, for
>> the IGF open consultation, 21 May 2013, Geneva.
>>
>> There should be a session in Bali to allow national/regional IGFs to
>> share and discuss information about the outcomes of their meetings.
>>
>> We suggest that the coordinators of each national/regional activity
>> are invited to join a coordinating group, which will work with the MAG
>> and IGF Secretariat to arrange the session.
>>
>> The coordinating group should prepare a standard reporting format.
>> Reports of each national/regional activity should be prepared in
>> advance of the session and made available on the IGF website. The
>> coordinating group will produce an initial analysis of the
>> regional/national IGFs reports submitted. The analysis will be an
>> input for the dialogue.  Each report can be briefly introduced during
>> a "reporting-in" part of the session.
>>
>> We suggest that the main purpose of the session should be to allow
>> discussion between the respective national/regional activities.
>> Discussion should seek to identify the commonality of views across the
>> different regions/countries, and at the same time identify the unique
>> elements that arise from each process.
>>
>> Based on the input reports, initial analysis and discussion, an
>> outcome report identifying areas of commonality and difference should
>> be prepared by the coordinating group as an output of the session. The
>> outcome report will go beyond identification/comparison to provide a
>> more substantive analysis; for example on common challenges faced,
>> different/local interpretations of same topics, etc.
>>
>> Session features:  a substantive session that focuses on dialogue not
>> reporting.  Written reports, to a pre-agreed format, required from
>> each process must be submitted before the Bali IGF.  Brief
>> reporting-in from each national/regional activity important.  Session
>> outcome report to be prepared.
>>
>> END
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net<mailto:sylvia at apnic.net>>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear Adam and all…
>> >
>> > Just wanted to make a small suggestion here… it will be great if the
>> > coordinating group as proposed by Adam, does some preparatory work
>> > and
>> > offers an initial analysis of the regional/national IGFs reports
>> > submitted.
>> > The analysis will be an input for the dialogue, to do the
>> > "identifying
>> > areas
>> > of commonality and difference" prior to the session, as well as
>> > challenges
>> > and results. The outcome report will then go beyond
>> > identification/comparison to provide a more substantive analysis.
>> > For
>> > example on common challenges faced, different/local interpretations
>> > of
>> > same
>> > topics, etc. I believe the role of that coordinating group proposed
>> > is
>> > critical to ensure that the session goes beyond just long reports on
>> > a
>> > session competing for attention from other sessions.
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > Sylvia
>> >
>> >
>> > From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg<mailto:TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>>
>> > Date: Saturday, 27 April 2013 3:06 AM
>> > To: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>>, APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia<mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>>
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal
>> >
>> > Adam and PC members,
>> >
>> > May I suggest holding off on this just a little bit. Let me check
>> > with
>> > Marilyn Cade. She seems to have been tasked with running this.
>> >
>> > In Kenya, such a session was on the main IGF programme. But in Baku,
>> > it
>> > became a parallel session. As it was, there was not enough time for
>> > national
>> > and regional presentations. I imagine that there would be even more
>> > national
>> > IGFs in Bali.
>> >
>> > My dissatisfaction with the format is that with so many diverse
>> > views,
>> > it
>> > became more noise than signal. You leave the session no better
>> > informed
>> > than
>> > not attending it.
>> >
>> > Allow me a couple of days to get back on this.
>> >
>> > Peng Hwa
>> >
>> > From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:27 PM
>> > To: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>>
>> > Cc: APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia<mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal
>> >
>> > Thanks for this Adam,
>> >
>> > This draft text works well for me and most importantly reflects well
>> > the
>> > sentiments and desires for this proposed session at the Bali IGF
>> > that
>> > wasvdiscussed in our APrIGF organising committee meeting held
>> > earlier
>> > today
>> > and  has therefore got my support as text (subject to any edits
>> > peoposed
>> > from the list discussions and agreed to by our consensus) to be
>> > forwarded as
>> > appropriate, when possible, in responce to the expected call for
>> > input
>> > to
>> > the IGF open consultation in May...
>> >
>> > CLO from my Mobile phone
>> >
>> > On 26/04/2013 7:02 PM, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp<mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> We discussed sending a proposal for the open consultation about
>> >> this
>> >> year's main session on regional and national IGFs.  Some ideas
>> >> about
>> >> such a contribution below.
>> >>
>> >> As yet, there doesn't seem to be a process for making comment for
>> >> the
>> >> IGF open consultation, Geneva, 21 May.  I expect something will be
>> >> posted soon.
>> >>
>> >> edit/comment please.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Proposal for Regional and National session (Bali IGF)
>> >> Contribution from the APrIGF multi-stakeholder steering committee,
>> >> IGF
>> >> open consultation, 21 May.
>> >>
>> >> There should be a session in Bali to allow national/regional IGFs
>> >> to
>> >> share and discuss information about the outcomes of their meetings.
>> >>
>> >> We suggest that the coordinators of each national/regional activity
>> >> be
>> >> invited to join a coordinating group, which will work with the MAG
>> >> and
>> >> IGF Secretariat to arrange the session.
>> >>
>> >> The coordinating group should prepare a standard reporting format.
>> >> Reports of each national/regional activity should be prepared in
>> >> advance of the session and made available on the IGF website.  Each
>> >> report can be briefly introduced during a "reporting-in" part of
>> >> the
>> >> session.
>> >>
>> >> We suggest that the main purpose of the session should be to allow
>> >> discussion between the respective national/regional activities.
>> >> Discussion should seek to identify the commonality of views across
>> >> the
>> >> different regions/countries, and at the same time identify the
>> >> unique
>> >> elements that arise from each process.
>> >>
>> >> A collected paper of outcomes identifying areas of commonality and
>> >> difference should be prepared by the coordinating group as an
>> >> output
>> >> of the session.
>> >>
>> >> Features:  a substantive session that focuses on dialogue not
>> >> reporting.  Written reports, to a pre-agreed format, required from
>> >> each process must be submitted before the Bali IGF.  Brief
>> >> reporting-in from each national/regional activity important.
>> >> Session
>> >> outcome document to be prepared.  3 hours session.
>> >>
>> >> END
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