[Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal

Thu May 9 14:47:00 HKT 2013

Just letting you know I have passed on our current proposed text to the new
discussion list, and informed them that I will further update the list
after our meeting tomorrow...

CLO from my Mobile phone
On 09/05/2013 2:54 PM, "Sylvia Cadena" <sylvia at apnic.net> wrote:

>  Thanks Adam for your insights. I agree that it all feels a lot rushed,
> as Markus requested a proposal for next week to be presented to the MAG.
>
>  Will Cheryl sent the proposal? Will you? Hope someone does, soon.
>
>  I agree with your comment about the national/subregional IGFs, hopefully
> all coordinators will have the chance to be involved.
>
>  All the best,
>
>  Sylvia
>
>   From: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
> Date: Wednesday, 8 May 2013 10:45 PM
> To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net>
> Cc: APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia>
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal
>
>   Hi all,
>
>  It seems the MAG has got into a bit of a panic over this.
>
>  I think we should support the process (thank you Cheryl!) but at the
> same time send the text that came from discussions on our last call to
> the open IGF consultation (hope those who will be in Geneva will speak
> to it).  Send the text to the MAG organized mailing list as well.
>
>  At this stage I wouldn't make the regional meetings the absolute focal
> points.  For example, we haven't had any discussions about using the
> APrIGF to aggregate issues from any national or sub-regional IGFs.
> Until things are clearer, leave it as all coordinators are equal.  How
> the session is arranged can then come from agreement among the
> coordinators and their groups, rather than MAG.
>
>  Best,
>
>  Adam
>
>
>  On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Cheryl and APrIGF PC,
>
>  I'm in Medellín at the Lacnic 19 meeting. I've just had lunch with
> Ricardo
> Pedraza, Valeria Betancourt and Julián Casasbuenas to talk about how the
> regional/national IGFs will report/contribute to the global IGF. As you
> know, Ricardo has been appointed to coordinate the working group to come up
> with a proposal about how the regional/national IGFs session/track should
> be
> conducted. A mailing list has been created, but no one besides Ricardo has
> subscribed to it up until today
> (http://mail.wgig.org/mailman/listinfo/regionaltrack_intgovforum.org).
> Hope
> you have already subscribed. This group has only one week to put something
> together before the MAG meeting, with a lot of other meetings in between,
> so
> I believe it will be really important to share the proposal that Adam put
> together and we discussed. I'm happy to help you with this, if need it.
>
>  At lunch, the ideas they shared (most of them in agreement with our
> proposal) are:
>
>  * To prepare prior to the global IGF, regional reports (that articulate
> the
> national events) using a common template and circulate it
> * To have roundtable/working session at the beginning of the IGF agenda,
> where regional IGFs will work to identify common topics, challenges and
> discuss methodological approaches that support the discussion, is open for
> remote participation, open consultation, responding to the people not in
> the
> room
> * To use the format already in place at the IGF for the cross-cutting
> themes
> as a tool to identify/monitor/capture contributions and topics raised at
> the
> regional IGFs and how they are incorporated into workshops and main
> sessions
> * To use the taking-stock mechanism to report back to the plenary and move
> the discussions forward
> * To identify a mechanism to bring the discussion from the global IGF back
> to the regional spaces to keep moving forward
> * They think that this space should focus on the regional IGFs and that the
> national/subregional IGFs should find ways to interact with the regional
> ones, considering the large amount of national IGFs conducted in Europe and
> how difficult it will be on a roundtable to go into that level of detail.
> Although they acknowledge that can cause difficulties/challenges to the
> rIGF
> organizers. Of course, if a methodological solution can be found about how
> to be able to realistically incorporate the national IGFs into this
> process.
>
>  Hope this contributes to the discussion on this space :)
>
>  All the best,
>
>  Sylvia
>
>  From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 8 May 2013 5:12 PM
> To: Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41 at gmail.com>
>
>  Cc: APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia>
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal
>
>  I trust it will help this discussion and our APrIGF purposes on this,
> that I
> can let you all know that yesterday I was formally invited to join this
> email discussion list and I accepted...
>
>  So as a non MAG member I am very happy to take our proposal formally to
> it
> for discussion along with any others of you in the same situation as I now
> find myself in...
>
>  Adam is there any modifications to the previously circulated text, based
> on
> the ensuing list discussions?  If so (or not) let me know ASAP, and can
> this
> list/group  agree that they wish me to proceed with presenting our proposal
> and annotate our desires/ aims  based on discussions on this list and our
> recent APrIGF organising meetings please...
>
>  CLO from my Mobile phone
>
>  On 08/05/2013 9:47 PM, "Shreedeep Rayamajhi" <weaker41 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Yes Adam its not open,MAG has its own circle of limited people advocating
> the issue of the developed nation, we need to push and identify the areas
> of
> improvement as suggested by Sylvia. In-fact a proposal from APrIGF could be
> a new voice of ASIA in regards for the future
>
>
>  Cheers to Life
> Shreedeep Rayamajhi
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>  On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>
>  I'm not sure that it's open to all involved in national and regional
> IGFs, so far it seems mainly MAG and a few invited people.  And the
> task of the group the MAG's setting up "is to come up with a concept
> on how best to integrate the regional/national IGF initiatives in a
> meaningful way into the programme for Bali."   I think a proposal from
> APrIGF would be helpful in substance and also to open the work up
> beyond the MAG.
>
>  Adam
>
>
>
>
>  On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I believe that a mailing list has been created by the IGF secretariat
> > focusing on regional IGF coordination that can be joining by the people
> > involved with regional IGF meetings and want to report back or provide
> > feedback to the IGF.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >>
> >> The MAG is now discussing how to include national and regional IGFs in
> >> the Bali meeting.  Suggestion so far is for a coordinating group, led
> >> by MAG members.  I suggest we still submit a proposal about a session
> >> and have updated the draft I sent after our last call.  Sylvia, hope I
> >> caught and included your comments.
> >>
> >> Do we have a call on Friday?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>
> >> Proposal for a National and Regional IGF session at Bali IGF.
> >> Contribution from the APrIGF multi-stakeholder steering committee, for
> >> the IGF open consultation, 21 May 2013, Geneva.
> >>
> >> There should be a session in Bali to allow national/regional IGFs to
> >> share and discuss information about the outcomes of their meetings.
> >>
> >> We suggest that the coordinators of each national/regional activity
> >> are invited to join a coordinating group, which will work with the MAG
> >> and IGF Secretariat to arrange the session.
> >>
> >> The coordinating group should prepare a standard reporting format.
> >> Reports of each national/regional activity should be prepared in
> >> advance of the session and made available on the IGF website. The
> >> coordinating group will produce an initial analysis of the
> >> regional/national IGFs reports submitted. The analysis will be an
> >> input for the dialogue.  Each report can be briefly introduced during
> >> a "reporting-in" part of the session.
> >>
> >> We suggest that the main purpose of the session should be to allow
> >> discussion between the respective national/regional activities.
> >> Discussion should seek to identify the commonality of views across the
> >> different regions/countries, and at the same time identify the unique
> >> elements that arise from each process.
> >>
> >> Based on the input reports, initial analysis and discussion, an
> >> outcome report identifying areas of commonality and difference should
> >> be prepared by the coordinating group as an output of the session. The
> >> outcome report will go beyond identification/comparison to provide a
> >> more substantive analysis; for example on common challenges faced,
> >> different/local interpretations of same topics, etc.
> >>
> >> Session features:  a substantive session that focuses on dialogue not
> >> reporting.  Written reports, to a pre-agreed format, required from
> >> each process must be submitted before the Bali IGF.  Brief
> >> reporting-in from each national/regional activity important.  Session
> >> outcome report to be prepared.
> >>
> >> END
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dear Adam and all…
> >> >
> >> > Just wanted to make a small suggestion here… it will be great if the
> >> > coordinating group as proposed by Adam, does some preparatory work
> >> > and
> >> > offers an initial analysis of the regional/national IGFs reports
> >> > submitted.
> >> > The analysis will be an input for the dialogue, to do the
> >> > "identifying
> >> > areas
> >> > of commonality and difference" prior to the session, as well as
> >> > challenges
> >> > and results. The outcome report will then go beyond
> >> > identification/comparison to provide a more substantive analysis.
> >> > For
> >> > example on common challenges faced, different/local interpretations
> >> > of
> >> > same
> >> > topics, etc. I believe the role of that coordinating group proposed
> >> > is
> >> > critical to ensure that the session goes beyond just long reports on
> >> > a
> >> > session competing for attention from other sessions.
> >> >
> >> > All the best,
> >> >
> >> > Sylvia
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>
> >> > Date: Saturday, 27 April 2013 3:06 AM
> >> > To: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>, APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia>
> >> >
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal
> >> >
> >> > Adam and PC members,
> >> >
> >> > May I suggest holding off on this just a little bit. Let me check
> >> > with
> >> > Marilyn Cade. She seems to have been tasked with running this.
> >> >
> >> > In Kenya, such a session was on the main IGF programme. But in Baku,
> >> > it
> >> > became a parallel session. As it was, there was not enough time for
> >> > national
> >> > and regional presentations. I imagine that there would be even more
> >> > national
> >> > IGFs in Bali.
> >> >
> >> > My dissatisfaction with the format is that with so many diverse
> >> > views,
> >> > it
> >> > became more noise than signal. You leave the session no better
> >> > informed
> >> > than
> >> > not attending it.
> >> >
> >> > Allow me a couple of days to get back on this.
> >> >
> >> > Peng Hwa
> >> >
> >> > From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
> >> > Date: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:27 PM
> >> > To: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
> >> > Cc: APrIGF PC <program at ap.rigf.asia>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] National/Regional IGF session proposal
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for this Adam,
> >> >
> >> > This draft text works well for me and most importantly reflects well
> >> > the
> >> > sentiments and desires for this proposed session at the Bali IGF
> >> > that
> >> > wasvdiscussed in our APrIGF organising committee meeting held
> >> > earlier
> >> > today
> >> > and  has therefore got my support as text (subject to any edits
> >> > peoposed
> >> > from the list discussions and agreed to by our consensus) to be
> >> > forwarded as
> >> > appropriate, when possible, in responce to the expected call for
> >> > input
> >> > to
> >> > the IGF open consultation in May...
> >> >
> >> > CLO from my Mobile phone
> >> >
> >> > On 26/04/2013 7:02 PM, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> We discussed sending a proposal for the open consultation about
> >> >> this
> >> >> year's main session on regional and national IGFs.  Some ideas
> >> >> about
> >> >> such a contribution below.
> >> >>
> >> >> As yet, there doesn't seem to be a process for making comment for
> >> >> the
> >> >> IGF open consultation, Geneva, 21 May.  I expect something will be
> >> >> posted soon.
> >> >>
> >> >> edit/comment please.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Adam
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Proposal for Regional and National session (Bali IGF)
> >> >> Contribution from the APrIGF multi-stakeholder steering committee,
> >> >> IGF
> >> >> open consultation, 21 May.
> >> >>
> >> >> There should be a session in Bali to allow national/regional IGFs
> >> >> to
> >> >> share and discuss information about the outcomes of their meetings.
> >> >>
> >> >> We suggest that the coordinators of each national/regional activity
> >> >> be
> >> >> invited to join a coordinating group, which will work with the MAG
> >> >> and
> >> >> IGF Secretariat to arrange the session.
> >> >>
> >> >> The coordinating group should prepare a standard reporting format.
> >> >> Reports of each national/regional activity should be prepared in
> >> >> advance of the session and made available on the IGF website.  Each
> >> >> report can be briefly introduced during a "reporting-in" part of
> >> >> the
> >> >> session.
> >> >>
> >> >> We suggest that the main purpose of the session should be to allow
> >> >> discussion between the respective national/regional activities.
> >> >> Discussion should seek to identify the commonality of views across
> >> >> the
> >> >> different regions/countries, and at the same time identify the
> >> >> unique
> >> >> elements that arise from each process.
> >> >>
> >> >> A collected paper of outcomes identifying areas of commonality and
> >> >> difference should be prepared by the coordinating group as an
> >> >> output
> >> >> of the session.
> >> >>
> >> >> Features:  a substantive session that focuses on dialogue not
> >> >> reporting.  Written reports, to a pre-agreed format, required from
> >> >> each process must be submitted before the Bali IGF.  Brief
> >> >> reporting-in from each national/regional activity important.
> >> >> Session
> >> >> outcome document to be prepared.  3 hours session.
> >> >>
> >> >> END
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