[Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation
Shahzad Ahmad
shahzad at bytesforall.pk
Mon Aug 19 16:06:15 HKT 2013
Dear Rajesh,
There was never a doubt on what India has achieved. We have several friends
and partners in India, who we continue to work with virtually. However, when
it comes to any face to face meeting or interaction, it becomes too
challenging and exclusionary… though its only political situation to be
blamed for.
APrIGF is now shaping up to be a very important regional IG forum, where
many of us are keen to contribute and participate. We flagged visa issue
only for the reason that if it has to happen in India, some concrete
solutions can be put in place to minimize the possibility of exclusion of
neighboring countries. Following figures that you mentioned only reaffirms
our point of view.
You are right and for that matter, I would call several EU processes
exclusionary too precisely due to visa issues. But for APrIGF, we own it and
we wish to work with it hence this small note of concern.
Best wishes and regards
Shahzad
From: Rajesh Chharia <rc at cjnet4u.com>
Date: Monday, August 19, 2013 12:50 PM
To: "program at aprigf.asia APrIGF Committee" <program at aprigf.asia>
Cc: APrIGF Secretariat <sec at aprigf.asia>, Yannis Li <yannis at registry.asia>
Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation
Dear All,
I can understand the view point of 2 members on visa issues. I must also
share the facts as under :
Recently, held SANOG August 2013 in Mumbai
Total Attendees: 223
Pakistan : 2
Bangladesh : 4
Sri Lanka : 1
Nepal : 7
APRICOT 2012 in New Delhi:
Total Attendees: 988
Pakistan : 1
Bangladesh : 10
Sri Lanka : 3
Nepal : 13
Ground realities on visa issues can be very specific as one can have the
same concern for China and for that matter, it can be for USA. We have to
bring participative approach and overlook any country specific issues for
conducting global events. In brief, issues particularly related to one or
two country's relationship should not deter to finalize venues. In a
lighter vein every second venue may have this or similar challenge. Having
said that, I would not absolve myself from the responsibility of helping the
members for the visa. I had done the same in the past.
India has over 900 million mobile subscriber and majority of them either on
or moving to smart phones for date. Further Indian Government have invested
4-5 Billion USD on Rural India Broadband project (BBNL) with a target of 600
Million Broadband users by 2020. Presently 150 million + Internet Users. In
my opinion, we should take such factors into consideration for organizing
events leading to all inclusiveness and the challenges for the same.
Hope my response is viewed in the spirit of togetherness if not on
boundaries, :-) atleast on Internet - A boundary-less world technology.
Best Regards,
Rajesh Chharia
+91 98110 38188
On 19-Aug-13, at 11:48 AM, AHM Bazlur Rahman wrote:
> Dear Professor & colleagues,
>
> Due to visa problem, I would like support to organise
>
> 2014 APrIGF in Nepal or Srilanka.
>
>
> With best regards,
>
>
> Bazlu
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> On 19 August 2013 12:04, Shahzad Ahmad <shahzad at bytesforall.pk> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Professor & colleagues,
>>
>>
>> A small detail for your kind consideration while deciding on the venue for
>> 2014 APrIGF.
>>
>> For many of us in south Asian countries, visa processes are more exclusionary
>> than anything else. We feel that a regional event in India may result in
>> exclusion of quite a few of us e.g. participants from Pakistan, Sri Lanka,
>> Bangladesh etc. In the past, for Hyderabad IGF also, Pakistanis were unable
>> to attend because of cross border tensions.
>>
>>
>> Thought we should flag this issue to all of you.
>>
>> Best wishes and regards
>> Shahzad
>>
>>
>> From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>
>> Date: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:22 PM
>> To: Wu Kuo <kuoweiwu at gmail.com>, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
>> Cc: APrIGF Secretariat <sec at aprigf.asia>, "program at aprigf.asia APrIGF
>> Committee" <program at aprigf.asia>
>> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation
>>
>> This is very good news indeed that we have another bidder.
>>
>> Given the introduction of the new competition, I would second Fouad's view
>> on the criterion of readiness. Rajesh and ISPAI had been pursuing the bid
>> to host an APrIGF for two years now. They have also attended various
>>
>> meetings and know what is expected in one of our meetings. The bid from
>> the University of Philippines Cebu is very encouraging but I think it has
>> underestimated the support--eg translation, live transcribing, live
>>
>> webcast--that we have come to expect.
>>
>> It would be good if Espinosa, who submitted the bid, be informed of the
>> support expected and if he could attend the meeting in Seoul so he knows
>>
>> what is expected.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peng Hwa
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16/8/13 6:56 PM, "Wu Kuo" <kuoweiwu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Basically I agree, but leave the decision to the committee. Yannis is
>>> helping in the administration to provide support and prepare the
>>>
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> Kuo Wu
>>>
>>> 從我的 iPhone 傳送
>>>
>>> Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> 於 2013/8/16 18:19 寫道：
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Yannis and all,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing this. I would like to request you to kindly
>>>> share which proposal came in first. For members of this list, it is
>>>> prudent to note that we can adopt a first come first considered
>>>> approach and build an order according to proposals. There should also
>>>>
>>>> be some sort of criterion to understand the readiness of a country to
>>>> host such an event.
>>>>
>>>> If ISPAI and NIXI, India has presented the proposal first in the order
>>>> of submissions, and, the Department of Computer Science, University of
>>>>
>>>> Philippines Cebu is second in that order of submission, the first EOI
>>>> should be considered for the coming year whereas the next year may be
>>>> considered for the second EOI.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, regional diversity is also an important consideration for
>>>> selection of a venue. So far, we have haven't had a APrIGF activity in
>>>> South Asia. May I propose for the program committee members to
>>>>
>>>> consider a host country EOI to be considered in order of submission
>>>> and on the basis of the need for regional diversity?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> Fouad Bajwa
>>>> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
>>>> My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:11 PM, APrIGF Secretariat <sec at aprigf.asia>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Program Committee,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would like to make a clarification that we have received 1 more
>>>>>
>>>>> additional
>>>>> proposal within the deadline. Therefore there are in total 2 proposals
>>>>> received from the below parties:
>>>>> 1. ISPAI and NIXI, India
>>>>> 2. Department of Computer Science, University of Philippines Cebu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached both proposals for your reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, we Secretariat will go through both proposals and
>>>>> compile a
>>>>> comparison sheet based on the set of selection criteria from the RFP
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> circulate to the PC next Monday for further discussion during next
>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yannis Li
>>>>>
>>>>> Secretariat of APrIGF
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