[Rigf_program] Fwd: Look forward to see you in Tokyo.... and session M4
Yoshihiro Obata
ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net
Fri Jul 13 09:50:15 HKT 2012
Daer William,
You are correct. However, with no reply from anybody, I am puzzled
what to do.
Yoshihiro Obata
(2012/07/13 9:37), William Fitzgerald wrote:
> I'm not sure i understand this email. I agree to the proposed title
> change if that's the question.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Yoshihiro Obata
> <ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net <mailto:ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I just noticed that I received an email that Google and its
> speakers agreed with the original change to "Evolution of Internet
> governance models". Since William is on the list of this email, I
> would like to agree to the change after his confirmation on
> whether the other proposals are better or not.
>
> However, please finish this discussion by early afternoon
> tomorrow. Some materials may not be changed later.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Yoshihiro Obata
>
>
> (2012/07/11 18:12), Izumi AIZU wrote:
>
> I have no real preference at this stage.
>
> Change may look better, but feels a bit odd at this stage.
>
> izumi
>
>
> 2012/7/11 Yoshihiro Obata <ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net
> <mailto:ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net>>:
>
> Dear MSG members,
>
> As I stated before, I do not like to change it at this
> stage without
> your majority support. Since we are at the final stage of
> working for
> printing materials, we need it very soon.
> If we do not see many responses by the end of today, I
> would like to
> propose a quick poll tomorrow by Peng Hwa or a chairman's
> decision and
> fix the issue by the end of tomorrow.
>
> Sincerely,
> Yoshihiro Obata
>
> (2012/07/11 17:20), Adam Peake wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Pablo's right "pertaining to the Internet" is
> redundant in the title.
> Suggest title as either
>
> (1) "International Public Policy and Internet Governance"
>
> or
>
> (2) "International Public Policy Issues Pertaining to
> the Internet"
>
> And given the ITU council working group named
> "international
> Internet-related public policy issues", the first of
> those names
> probably better.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Pablo Hinojosa
> <pablo at apnic.net <mailto:pablo at apnic.net>> wrote:
>
> Dear Yoshiro Obata,
>
> Thank you for your message. Not the purpose of my
> message to bring
> confusion.
>
> Great to be proved wrong that the title doesn't
> imply supporting
> activities such as the closed ITU CWG-Internet.
> This is good news.
>
> I guess we all agree that the current
> multistakeholder model is the one
> that we need to care for and promote its evolution
> within this
> framework. I offered an alternative title, but I
> am open to any
> suggestions. Perhaps title can be "Evolution of
> the current Internet
> governance model"?
>
> My point is that the current title is heavily
> charged with the ITU
> connotation and the implication of "Internet
> Governance issues
> pertaining to the Internet" doesn't make much sense.
>
> Pablo
>
>
> On 11/07/12 5:49 PM, Yoshihiro Obata wrote:
>
> Dear German and Pablo,
>
> I am a little confused.
> As far as I understand, the session
> covers many UN like activities
> which are trying to manage the Internet.
> Basically, all of the speakers
> are against such idea. The reason why the
> title is such is that it is
> the name for all of these activities.
> If you are suggesting that the title
> implies that it "supports" such
> activity, that is a wrong assumption. I think
> you need to read the
> abstract of the session.
> Secondly, I do not think the presenters
> will propose any new Internet
> governance model so that your proposal of
> "evolution" may not fit well.
> I think what we want to stick with is the
> multistakeholder model as
> it is right now.
>
> Anyway, my understanding is that we let
> the coordinator propose their
> session title unless their is a conflict or
> confusion with other
> sessions or the majority of the MSG think that
> the title does not fit well.
>
> I do not have any strong position on the
> change but I do not support
> nor refuse the change for the reasons above.
>
> Sincerely,
> Yoshihiro Obata
>
> (2012/07/11 16:23), German Valdez wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'm forwarding this message to the list on
> behalf of Pablo Hinojosa.
>
> Please if you need to reply include Pablo
> in the cc.
>
> Regards
>
> German
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Look forward to see you in
> Tokyo.... and session M4
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:12:07 +1000
> From: Pablo Hinojosa <pablo at apnic.net
> <mailto:pablo at apnic.net>
> <mailto:pablo at apnic.net
> <mailto:pablo at apnic.net>>>
> To: program at ap.rigf.asia
> <mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>
> <mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia
> <mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>>
>
> Hello from APNIC,
>
> Hope all is well. I look forward to
> meet you next week at the APrIGF in
> Tokyo.
>
> I have not been involved in the
> discussions that lead to the preparation
> of the forum, although some of my
> colleagues in APNIC have. When we were
> preparing our participation for next
> week, the following issue caught
> our attention. It is the title of
> panel M4: "International Public Policy
> and Internet Governance Issues
> Pertaining to the Internet"
>
> First thing is that I would be
> interested to attend this session and I
> am sure there will be a rich discussion.
>
> However, I noticed that the title of
> the session is a bit strange and
> wondered if it refers to, for example,
> the ITU's Council Working Group
> on international Internet-related
> public policy issues (CWG-Internet):
>
> http://www.itu.int/council/groups/CWG-internet/index.html
>
> And also if there are Internet
> governance issues that *does not* pertain
> to the Internet.
>
> Wonder if, even at this late stage,
> there could be a consideration to
> change the title of this session, for
> example, to: "evolution of
> Internet governance models"?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best regards,
> Pablo Hinojosa
> APNIC
> +61430147274 <tel:%2B61430147274>
>
>
>
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