[Rigf_program] continuation of APrIGF work

[Wu Kuo]

Fine to me since Peng Hwa and I will be APNIC 34 meeting together.

Kuo Wu

Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) 於 2012/8/9 下午9:27 寫道：

> Friends,
> 
> Please excuse my much-delayed response. The APrIGF was the end of the 4th
> week I was away from office. I was just 4 days in Singapore in July and
> mostly over the weekends. So I returned from Tokyo to a pile a paperwork
> and then had to go to Manila this Sunday. I left on Tuesday when the water
> was waist high in some parts. In short, I am giving excuses for the tardy
> response. The other reason is that I have yet to find out what Edmon has
> been eating that gives him the amazing energy. I was just beat after Tokyo.
> 
> I will be at the APNIC meeting in Phnom Penh for the entire week. May I
> propose, with Kuo-Wei, a f2f meeting with those who will be there to
> address the bunch of issues raised then? We could do a Skype conference
> call as well.
> 
> My suggestion is to draft a document to address those issues raised with a
> view to improving the process of convening the APrIGF.
> 
> 
> Edmon,
> I think the monthly conference call may be too much at this point. We
> should have something to work with, so I propose coming out with a draft
> document at the APNIC meeting.
> 
> Everything will be draft and we should invite comments before firming the
> document.
> 
> 
> Izumi,
> I will reply to the questions raised by Parminder tomorrow. You should not
> have to feel defensive. You have done the most in advocating and reminding
> us to be inclusive, open and transparent. Any suggestion otherwise is
> unwarranted.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Peng Hwa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/7/12 9:41 AM, "Izumi AIZU" <iza at anr.org> wrote:
> 
>> I also like to join to thank and congratulate, especially to the people
>> who
>> devoted much energy, time, resources and intelligence.
>> 
>> I agree with most observations already mentioned here.
>> To add, for the improvements,
>> 
>> Need to establish/expose "multi-stakeholder" organization of the event.
>> Need to make it "open" in terms of organizational area.
>> As you might know some "legitimacy" question was sent. Though I do not
>> agree with the allegation, in the wide and diverse Asia Pacific
>> region, there is always some danger that some people may challenge our
>> legitimacy.
>> 
>> To deal with that,
>> a) Open and transparent process for the next host is very important.
>> b) Involvement of multi-stakeholder groups in the organizing process
>> is also necessary.
>> c) As I already suggested, place "About APrIGF" to explain clearly who
>> we are, etc. Maybe a kind of open and formal process for various
>> entities (such as APIA, APNIC, APTLD, JAIPA, dotAsia, etc) to be
>> designated as organizing bodies, on a regular basis, and ask others to
>> join, with some mutually agreed upon qualifications. Individuals also
>> can join this with some process, too.
>> 
>> Establish preparatory process with time-lines.
>> It depends on when we will have next APrIGF, but say, open call
>> published 4 months ahead, close 3.5 months ahead, etc.
>> 
>> Feedback from participants, online, for example, may be good idea for
>> the next time.
>> 
>> Another, maybe minor, tool can be - make a mailing list shared by
>> (agreed) participants in advance that can be used for announcing last
>> minute changes, providing important notices etc.
>> 
>> Group and/or Page on Facebook may work, subject to discussion.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> 
>> izumi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/7/27 Edmon Chung <edmon at registry.asia>:
>>> That is a good idea.  In the first APrIGF, we did a survey and
>>> collected some good input.  This time, I think perhaps we can start with
>>> a round of thoughts from this program committee first?...
>>> 
>>> Perhaps if everyone can put in some thoughts (even unstructured) to
>>> this email thread:
>>> 
>>> 1. Good and should be continued/expanded
>>> - open call for workshops (outside of program committee)
>>> - inclusion of locally relevant topics to attract local audience (and
>>> spark interest from regional audience)
>>> - simultaneous interpretation for sessions
>>> - integration of YIGF Camp, especially reporting session into APrIGF
>>> - local secretariat + regional secretariat coordination
>>> 
>>> 2. Needs improvement
>>> - remote participation (ability to take questions / interact with
>>> remote participants)
>>> - diversity and multistakeholder participation at each panel
>>> - pc/msg processes
>>> - earlier preparations
>>> - coordination with national/subregional IGFs (including in preparation
>>> and follow up stages)
>>> - participation from outside of industry
>>> - proximity of main hotel and venue
>>> 
>>> 3. Ideas
>>> - workshops designed for more intensive discussions (2 types of
>>> sessions: more general / more in depth)
>>> - follow on workshops at UN IGF (requires earlier preparations)
>>> - ongoing meeting preparation (i.e. monthly meeting of program
>>> committee)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Others, please add your thoughts...
>>> 
>>> Edmon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hotta at jprs.co.jp [mailto:hotta at jprs.co.jp]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:53 AM
>>> To: Edmon Chung
>>> Cc: 'APrIGF PC'
>>> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] continuation of APrIGF work
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Edmon and all.
>>> 
>>> First, how about collecting information about
>>> - what were good and should be continued
>>> - what needs improvement
>>> before we've lost our memory of Tokyo meeting ?
>>> 
>>> Hiro
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:14:11 +0800
>>> "Edmon Chung" <edmon at registry.asia> wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Now that APrIGF 2012 is complete (and as we continue to thank the host
>>>> :-))...
>>>> Perhaps it's good time to start preparing for APrIGF 2013
>>>> 
>>>> First off would be a couple of followup work that I noted down for us
>>>> to do:
>>>> 1. get the APrIGF host manual onto a wiki 2. update the APrIGF.asia
>>>> main page into a destination for information on IG activities around
>>>> the world and especially relevant to Asia.
>>>> 
>>>> And then we need to I think also figure out:
>>>> A. process for and the actual finalizing of host for APrIGF 2013 B.
>>>> improving government participation C. broader outreach, especially for
>>>> workshop proposals D. types/forms of "output"
>>>> 
>>>> If people are willing... I would like to propose trying to setup a
>>>> monthly call (or skype chat?) for this...
>>>> 
>>>> Edmon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> PS. Of course, Obata-san and Peng Hwa are also working on the report
>>>> for this year which we will bring to Baku.  I think that is already
>>>> well underway :-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
>> Japan
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