[Rigf_program] public call for comments, APrIGF 2013

Thu Mar 14 10:47:59 HKT 2013

Thanks, Paul, I've talked with the officers of UNESCAP Trade and
Investment Division about R-IGF in Seoul and showed them the website.
They seems interested. Since they will have a regional trade
facilitation forum in Beijing or Qingdao around September 8, it could
be easier for them to stop by Seoul.

Hong

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:
> Hello Hong,
>
> Nice to hear that you are with UNESCAP.
>
> "Paperless trade" is a very topical issue these days, along with trade in
> online services, digital assets and other virtual goods.  I don't see
> those on the draft agenda, but I would support their inclusion.
>
> I do think you can alert ESCAP people to the meeting and possible topics,
> and be sure to keep in touch with them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 13 March 2013 11:36 PM
> To: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu at gmail.com>
> Cc: Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net>, "program at ap.rigf.asia PC"
> <program at ap.rigf.asia>, Rinalia Abdul Rahim
> <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>, vivek anannd <vivekvc2001 at yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] public call for comments, APrIGF 2013
>
>>Hi, I'm not sure if I can manage to join the call on Friday either. So
>>sharing some rough thoughts with you.
>>
>>We talked about enhancement of involvement of gov.s and IGOs at
>>regional IGF. Last year, I did approached UNESCO Beijing Office but
>>their officers were not able to join us physically because the travel
>>to Tokyo was not put into their internet budget well before the
>>meeting, So if we want to invite the officials from gov. or IGOs, we
>>may want to do this asap to enable them to process internally.
>>
>>I'm right now at UNESCAP for a treaty-drafting meeting. Please brief
>>me whether I should approach the UN officials on paperless trade
>>facilitation right here regarding our plan for rIGF in Seoul in
>>September? Or, we should wait until more "organizationally" settled?
>>
>>Is there a call for suggestions on the website, with closing date of
>>31 March? I was not aware of either. Seems we all missed the deadline.
>>
>>Hong
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Paul+1.
>>>
>>> At this moment, I will suggest to focus on program for APrIGF Seoul
>>>meeting.
>>> Regarding to the process, we can reserve a 3 hours open discussion in
>>>Seoul
>>> too. As I know, the members are very open from the very first day. Here
>>>are
>>> something we have to do:
>>>
>>> 1. form a "committee" (although we have a committee since 2010)
>>> 2. and the committee have to figure out the "secrtariat" (such as
>>>dotAsia
>>> did in the last four years) and the cost (dotAsia provide free support
>>>in
>>> the last four year).
>>> 3. Begin to open for proposal for the next few years (2014, 2015,..)
>>>
>>> I expect we should focus on the program agenda for APrIGF Seoul meeting
>>> immediately. And leave those issues (above) for ICANN Beijing meeting
>>>(if we
>>> plan to have one). And continue to discuss in Seoul.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Kuo Wu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Adam.
>>>>
>>>> These issues were raised again in Singapore, and so I agree that
>>>>action is
>>>> needed in terms of open and clear processes that fulfil
>>>>multistakeholder
>>>> expectations.  This has been agreed already, more than once, so I don't
>>>> think there is any need to interpret reluctance on anyone's part, or to
>>>> expect any argument about the basic need.
>>>>
>>>> Of course the themes, format and agenda for any IGF meeting should be
>>>> assembled through an open process and we can do that in this case
>>>>through
>>>> an open call as Adam suggests.  The rigf.asia does already contain a
>>>>call
>>>> for suggestions, with closing date of 31 March, which I was not aware
>>>>of.
>>>> That's a good start but I think this needs to be opened up in an online
>>>> forum or open mailing list which allows discussion and visibility of
>>>>other
>>>> comments.  Also the opportunity to provide input needs to be widely
>>>> advertised as Adam suggests.
>>>>
>>>> I would also suggest that the Host's draft programme (which is
>>>>excellent
>>>> by the way) can be considered as a proposal, and I suggest to publish
>>>>it
>>>> as such, which allows the community to respond to it, as well as to
>>>>make
>>>> "original contributions" of their own.
>>>>
>>>> We do have time to do this, providing that we start soon, so I hope
>>>>that
>>>> this can be added to the agenda for Friday's call.   I would think that
>>>> the deadline can be extended by another month to the end of April,
>>>>without
>>>> causing too much trouble.
>>>>
>>>> There are other issues around the next IGF to be discussed as well, so
>>>>I
>>>> hope we have space on the agenda.  We need to determine a timeline for
>>>> decision on location, on the MSG (programme committee) and other
>>>>critical
>>>> milestones.
>>>>
>>>> Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, 12 March 2013 1:15 PM
>>>> To: "program at ap.rigf.asia PC" <program at ap.rigf.asia>
>>>> Cc: vivek anannd <vivekvc2001 at yahoo.co.in>, Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>>>> <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [Rigf_program] public call for comments, APrIGF 2013
>>>>
>>>> >Hi everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> >I am not sure if I can make Friday's call, it's around the time I need
>>>> >to catch a train.  But a couple of things concerning me about progress
>>>> >and mainly process so far.
>>>> >
>>>> >We had some lengthy discussions following last years APrIGF and the
>>>> >IGF in Baku about organizing the APrIGF, particularly opening the
>>>> >process, ensuring it was more inclusive, transparent and accountable
>>>> >to the region's stakeholders.  Unless I'm much mistaken, we now seem
>>>> >to be proceeding much the same as the previous 3 years.
>>>> >
>>>> >I suggest we hold for a while on developing the agenda further and put
>>>> >out for public comment what we have so far:
>>>> >
>>>> >Location and dates of the meeting.  Support received so far.  An
>>>> >outline of what the meeting might look like, i.e. a blank schedule, to
>>>> >show plenary and concurrent sessions.  I want to be clear, I think our
>>>> >Korean hosts are doing a great job.  These comments are *not*
>>>> >criticism, *not* intended as negative.
>>>> >
>>>> >I suggest we issue a public call to help convene the meeting.  The
>>>> >call can mirror the global IGF process, ask for ideas for an overall
>>>> >theme for main sessions (how many can there be?) and ideas for
>>>> >sub-themes (how many can there be?).  At the same time, reasonable to
>>>> >include all the themes already suggested.
>>>> >
>>>> >Set a date for submitting comments.  Each of us should outreach to our
>>>> >respective networks and contacts to make sure the call for comments is
>>>> >widely seen.  Someone should be responsible for contacting the
>>>> >Indonesian IGF team (I met them in Paris, happy to introduce if
>>>> >necessary.)
>>>> >
>>>> >If we don't do this I'm concerned we are going to again face
>>>> >criticism, probably more severe than before.
>>>> >
>>>> >Best,
>>>> >
>>>> >Adam
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>>--
>>Professor Dr. Hong Xue
>>Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)
>>Beijing Normal University
>>http://www.iipl.org.cn/
>>19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
>>Beijing 100875 China
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Professor Dr. Hong Xue
Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)
Beijing Normal University
http://www.iipl.org.cn/
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
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