[Rigf_program] [Sep 13 Thu 16:00-17:00 UTC+8] APrIGF 2013 Conference Call

Tue Sep 11 10:20:50 HKT 2012

Apologies, I cannot join the call from North America at 2:00am local time.

Hong

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Yannis Li <yannis at registry.asia> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> According to the Doodle, seems this Thursday have the most people available.
>
> So let's confirm our call details as below:
> Date: Sep 13 (Thursday)
> Time: 4:00-5:00pm UTC+8
> Participant Code:  745205
> Toll Free Numbers: Attached
>
> I will circulate the draft RFP tomorrow to the list.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Yannis Li
> Secretariat of APrIGF
> DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
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> On 5 Sep 2012, at 10:44 PM, Wu Kuo wrote:
>
> I have ICANN board meeting from September 11~14. I have to check the
> schedule about USA/LA time and find the way to make the phone call.
>
> Kuo Wu
>
> Yannis Li 於 2012/9/4 下午7:01 寫道：
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please find the doodle link at below:
> http://doodle.com/cx4ea5sh8dg64ehb
>
> Will circulate the draft consideration later on.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Yannis Li
> DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
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> On 4 Sep 2012, at 6:36 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>
> No worries. Do whichever you are comfortable with.
>
> Thanks for doing it.
>
> Regards,
> Peng Hwa
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia
> [mailto:rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Edmon Chung
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 September, 2012 10:47 AM
> To: rigf_program at ap.rigf.asia
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>
> Will send out a doodle for the meeting.
>
> On CFP (I usually use RFP :-P but I see why "C") Yannis and I will compile
> something for consideration.
>
> Edmon
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia
> [mailto:rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Ang Peng Hwa
> (Prof)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:38 AM
> To: rigf_program at ap.rigf.asia
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>
> I agree with Edmon that we should do a conference call before Baku.
>
> At this stage, I would say that Keith's ideas that we need to have a
> discussion around the two sub-committees are sound.
>
> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
>
>
> Edmon,
> Between APrIGF 1 and 2, we had some requirements drawn up. Now with APrIGF
> 3, we should more or less have a final document on the requirements. I feel
> that is the heart of the issue. The additional requirements for announcing
> CFP would be relatively easier to execute. Perhaps you might suggest what
> these would be as dotAsia would be the Secretariat.
>
>
> Izumi,
> You had been the one giving several good suggestions re the MSG. Perhaps you
> might share your ideas. Bulleted points would be good enough.
>
> Regards,
> Peng Hwa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia
> [mailto:rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Wu Kuo
> Sent: Monday, 3 September, 2012 7:29 PM
> To: Edmon Chung
> Cc: rigf_program at ap.rigf.asia
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>
> But we have to have a draft procedure and agenda for the conference call,
> any comment?
>
> Kuo Wu
>
> Edmon Chung 於 2012/9/3 下午6:10 寫道：
>
> I would like to suggest having a conference call before Baku to talk a bit
> about this.
>
> If others agree... perhaps will send around a doodle to try something late
> next week (Sep 12/13/14) or early the week of Sep 17th.
>
> Edmon
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia
>
> [mailto:rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Wu Kuo
>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 3:56 PM
>
> To: Ang Hwa Peng
>
> Cc: rigf_program at ap.rigf.asia
>
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>
>
> Dr. Sir of KISA, Korea will be IGF Baku meeting. So we have more people in
> Baku for the meeting (I just received his message).
>
>
> Kuo Wu
>
>
> Izumi AIZU 於 2012/9/2 下午12:55 寫道：
>
>
> Indonesian Government person is Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono.
>
>
> He is on the IGF MAG, and I believe trying to host global IGF in
>
> 2013, am not sure if that is 100% confirmed, but highly likely.  He
>
> has two
>
> hats:
>
>
> Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono
>
> Executive Team Member of the National ICT Council, Republic of Indonesia.
>
>
> Director of Postgraduate Program,
>
> Budi Luhur University,
>
> Jakarta, Indonesia.
>
>
> We sent invitation letter to him for this year's APrIGF, and due to
>
> late invitation/planning, he wanted but could not join.
>
>
> I don't think Indonesia will host one global and one regional in the
>
> same year or consecutively, but I think it is better to let them be
>
> inside the loop for APrIGF (among others).
>
>
> izumi
>
>
>
> 2012/9/2 Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>:
>
> That is exactly what I had heard about KISA and SKs commitment.It is
>
> the reason that I was pointing this out because within IGF related
>
> activities, any body that takes up a regional IGF activity should
>
> also build up the stakeholder confidence and trust in its processes
>
> so that a legitimacy may be sustainably established.
>
>
> India's interest can be confirmed and kept for 2014 so that they
>
> also have time to commit and prepare. If you take the APrIGF to
>
> South Asia, then there will have to be considerable effort to
>
> convince and bring in South Asian governments, academic, civil
>
> society, researchers, private sector. The cooperation basis in that
>
> region is very tense due to the war on terror and other
>
> inter-regional issues that have been part of a strained history of
>
> relations. It would also mean to convince SAARC the South Asian
>
> Association Regional Cooperation into the process.
>
>
> One thing that is missing from the APrIGF as Parminder had also
>
> pointed out is both balanced representation of stakeholder groups in
>
> the process while I also believe in Prof Peng's stance that new
>
> things take time to build up but if the proper combined effort is
>
> made this can be achieved.
>
>
> I can even organize a APrIGF in Pakistan but without having a local
>
> commitment to the IGF process does not enable a successful
>
> cooperation for that to happen between all the stakeholder groups so
>
> as Paul also points out, there needs to be a detailed level of
>
> commitment and clarity in purpose of the process legitimizing the MSG
> participation.
>
>
> Best
>
>
> FoOodafied!
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ching Chiao <chiao at registry.asia> wrote:
>
> Dear all -- I've worked with KISA for a successful APNG Camp last
>
> month in Seoul. As Dr. Sir told me -- the budget of 2013 APrIGF in
>
> Korea has been booked and keep in mind they are a government agency
>
> therefore the commitment is 200% there (the other 100% is that if
>
> the meeting is not happening there will be a consequence). On the
>
> other hand, I remember when I helped chair the AP* meeting earlier
>
> this year in New Delhi, we did talk about recognizing Korea's
>
> interest back then and we thank them for give ways to Japan for
>
> this year's meeting (and at that time KISA does not have a meeting
> proposal).
>
>
> I do not know if YJ Park is on this list. I know she's been
>
> involved in Korean IGF and is the main international contact. Ms.
>
> Jin from KISA was also assigned to prepare for IGF.
>
>
> Ching
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, yes, I will be in Baku and willing to join the meeting, and I
>
> also agree with Paul and others that it's time for us to define
>
> the process in an open manner - so as not to be blamed yet again -
>
> for selection of the next venue and also define ourselves - who
>
> are organizing the APrIGF under which terms and conditions, again
>
> this should be open and transparent.
>
>
> izumi
>
>
>
> 2012/9/2 Keith Davidson <keith at internetnz.net.nz>:
>
> Hi Peng Hwa, all,
>
>
> I will be in Baku and support the idea of getting together to discuss.
>
> Perhaps we should concentrate on establishing 2 sub committees of
>
> the main group, to deal specifically with:
>
>
> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
>
> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
>
>
> And perhaps establishing a charter for these sub committees ??
>
>
> While it has been great not to have to be confined by rules and
>
> regulations since our inception, it does appear that we will have
>
> to have more robust and transparent processes for the future.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Keith
>
>
> On 31/08/2012 5:12 p.m., Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
>
> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just
>
> two of us.
>
> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
>
> hosting out. That was Wednesday.
>
>
> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
>
> Government of India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed
>
> interest to host the 2013 APrIGF in India. Some people here at
>
> the APNIC conference seem to suggest that India would make a
>
> better choice. The South Asia region would be more likely to
>
> attend.
>
>
> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
>
> prompt the South Koreans to respond.
>
>
> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
>
> opportunity to iron out the civil society process issues. But it
>
> would be best to get the bid documents out and then get a firm
>
> decision at Baku in early November. Having lived in India, I am
>
> a bit concerned that they may need more time should they win the
>
> bid.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peng Hwa
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