[Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested

Hong Xue hongxueipr at gmail.com
Mon Sep 3 10:08:02 HKT 2012 

Since no formal/written procedure or rules is set out on hosting, it
is important to ensure none of the proposals/bids availed to us so far
is excluded. Sequencing or decision is the issue for next step. We may
wish to start drafting the rules as Keith suggested at this stage.

Hong



On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I will also be in Baku and would like to join the discussions.
>
> Please allow me to also make a few comments here. I agree with the need to
> set into place procedures that are clear, transparent, and take into account
> the enormous variety that the AP region is made up of. To make this a truly
> regional event, I believe this would necessarily need to involve a balanced
> representation of the different regions on the MAG, as well as, as much as
> possible, a rotation of the event around different parts of the region.
>
> I have observed the development of the APrIGF mostly from the outside over
> the past few years, and since February, have also gotten the opportunity to
> have some glimpses from the inside. I have much appreciated the enormous and
> evident efforts that various people on this list have made to grow and
> develop this yearly event. However, if the focus of the event - in practice,
> if not in intention - continues to be on East and South East Asia, it is
> unlikely that existing criticisms will go away.
>
> For that reason, I think it is important that procedures are put into place
> from this year onwards, and that existing decisions can be reviewed. This is
> not to say that the next APrIGF should necessarily come to India. It is to
> say, however, that if India is to bid, this bid should be fully considered
> and given a fair chance. It is only when the APrIGF literally comes closer
> to people that the larger Internet communities in the various parts of AP
> will feel that it is also "their" event.
>
> Finally, let me say that if the Indian government shows an interest in
> hosting the event and puts in a bid, I am sure they would do a good job.
>
> I am likely to meet with Dr. Govind this Tuesday. Please let me know if
> there is anything you would like me to clarify with him, or any comments you
> would like to share. I would be happy to do so.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anja
>
>
>
>
> On 2 September 2012 10:25, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>>
>> Indonesian Government person is Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono.
>>
>> He is on the IGF MAG, and I believe trying to host global IGF in 2013,
>> am not sure if that is 100% confirmed, but highly likely.  He has two
>> hats:
>>
>> Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono
>> Executive Team Member of the National ICT Council, Republic of Indonesia.
>>
>> Director of Postgraduate Program,
>> Budi Luhur University,
>> Jakarta, Indonesia.
>>
>> We sent invitation letter to him for this year's APrIGF, and due to
>> late invitation/planning, he wanted but could not join.
>>
>> I don't think Indonesia will host one global and one regional in the
>> same year or consecutively, but I think it is better to let them be
>> inside the loop for APrIGF (among others).
>>
>> izumi
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/2 Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>:
>> > That is exactly what I had heard about KISA and SKs commitment.It is
>> > the reason that I was pointing this out because within IGF related
>> > activities, any body that takes up a regional IGF activity should also
>> > build up the stakeholder confidence and trust in its processes so that
>> > a legitimacy may be sustainably established.
>> >
>> > India's interest can be confirmed and kept for 2014 so that they also
>> > have time to commit and prepare. If you take the APrIGF to South Asia,
>> > then there will have to be considerable effort to convince and bring
>> > in South Asian governments, academic, civil society, researchers,
>> > private sector. The cooperation basis in that region is very tense due
>> > to the war on terror and other inter-regional issues that have been
>> > part of a strained history of relations. It would also mean to
>> > convince SAARC the South Asian Association Regional Cooperation into
>> > the process.
>> >
>> > One thing that is missing from the APrIGF as Parminder had also
>> > pointed out is both balanced representation of stakeholder groups in
>> > the process while I also believe in Prof Peng's stance that new things
>> > take time to build up but if the proper combined effort is made this
>> > can be achieved.
>> >
>> > I can even organize a APrIGF in Pakistan but without having a local
>> > commitment to the IGF process does not enable a successful cooperation
>> > for that to happen between all the stakeholder groups so as Paul also
>> > points out, there needs to be a detailed level of commitment and
>> > clarity in purpose of the process legitimizing the MSG participation.
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > FoOodafied!
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ching Chiao <chiao at registry.asia> wrote:
>> >> Dear all -- I've worked with KISA for a successful APNG Camp last month
>> >> in
>> >> Seoul. As Dr. Sir told me -- the budget of 2013 APrIGF in Korea has
>> >> been
>> >> booked and keep in mind they are a government agency therefore the
>> >> commitment is 200% there (the other 100% is that if the meeting is not
>> >> happening there will be a consequence). On the other hand, I remember
>> >> when I
>> >> helped chair the AP* meeting earlier this year in New Delhi, we did
>> >> talk
>> >> about recognizing Korea's interest back then and we thank them for give
>> >> ways
>> >> to Japan for this year's meeting (and at that time KISA does not have a
>> >> meeting proposal).
>> >>
>> >> I do not know if YJ Park is on this list. I know she's been involved in
>> >> Korean IGF and is the main international contact. Ms. Jin from KISA was
>> >> also
>> >> assigned to prepare for IGF.
>> >>
>> >> Ching
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi, yes, I will be in Baku and willing to join the meeting, and
>> >>> I also agree with Paul and others that it's time for us to
>> >>> define the process in an open manner - so as not to be blamed
>> >>> yet again - for selection of the next venue and also define
>> >>> ourselves - who are organizing the APrIGF under which terms
>> >>> and conditions, again this should be open and transparent.
>> >>>
>> >>> izumi
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2012/9/2 Keith Davidson <keith at internetnz.net.nz>:
>> >>> > Hi Peng Hwa, all,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I will be in Baku and support the idea of getting together to
>> >>> > discuss.
>> >>> > Perhaps we should concentrate on establishing 2 sub committees of
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > main group, to deal specifically with:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
>> >>> > - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
>> >>> >
>> >>> > And perhaps establishing a charter for these sub committees ??
>> >>> >
>> >>> > While it has been great not to have to be confined by rules and
>> >>> > regulations since our inception, it does appear that we will have to
>> >>> > have more robust and transparent processes for the future.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Cheers
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Keith
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 31/08/2012 5:12 p.m., Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>> >>> >> Folks,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just two
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> us.
>> >>> >> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
>> >>> >> hosting
>> >>> >> out. That was Wednesday.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
>> >>> >> Government
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed interest to host the
>> >>> >> 2013
>> >>> >> APrIGF in India. Some people here at the APNIC conference seem to
>> >>> >> suggest
>> >>> >> that India would make a better choice. The South Asia region would
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> more
>> >>> >> likely to attend.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
>> >>> >> prompt
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> South Koreans to respond.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
>> >>> >> opportunity
>> >>> >> to iron out the civil society process issues. But it would be best
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> get
>> >>> >> the bid documents out and then get a firm decision at Baku in early
>> >>> >> November. Having lived in India, I am a bit concerned that they may
>> >>> >> need
>> >>> >> more time should they win the bid.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Regards,
>> >>> >> Peng Hwa
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
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