[Rigf_program] Change of session title

[Rafik Dammak]

Dear Kiyosada-san,

Thank you for the explanation, please find my comments below:


Yes, this session is organized mainly to discuss proposals (to
> WCIT/ITRs) for leveraging the ITU treaty process to quell the global free
> flow of information. However, we request to remove "WCIT/ITRs" from the
> title.
>
>
 here we already have some contradiction,

> Reason: The "current" ITRs do NOT have any provision about the Internet.
> Some countries (Russia, China, etc.) are proposing to amend the ITRs to
> cover the Internet, but other countries (U.S., Japan, etc.) have not agreed
> to regulate the Interent under the ITRs. Unless there is the agreement
> among ITU member countries to discuss possible regulation on the Internet
> under the ITRs, we should not include WCIT in the title, because WCIT is a
> name of the gathering to discuss  ITRs issues.
>
> in fact the discussion is about the negotiation on the ITR and possible
change there like including provisions about cybercrime and spam or more
important regarding interconnection settlement which interest developing
and developed countries in addition to proposal like the one from ETNO, we
need some awareness and clarification about the topic and to inform the
various Internet actor in Asia Pacific, I am not even sure that
big Japanese telco operators are aware about the issue for example, there
was enough confusion on many blogs and media so the purpose of the session
is to have ALL stakeholders (gov,civil society, private sector,academia and
technical community) and people with experience about ITU process to talk
about WCIT/ITR. for example civil society already pointed to the issue of
transparency regarding WCIT and then we have initiatives like wcitleaks.org

We expect speakers of this session to have similar discussion with the UN
> discussion, "International Public Policy Issues Pertaining to the Internet"
> (for more details, please see the attached document). Robert Guerra, the
> moderator of the session, has been involved in the UN discussion and would
> be able to handle this complicated issue properly.
>
>
most people here have long experience in UN processes (whatever
UNDESA,CSTD,ECOSOC, UNCTAD) and many attended WSIS 2003, and 2005 and the
prepcom meetings in addition to IGF editions since 2005. maybe by UN
discussion you mean proposal like CIRP and so on. I guess that we are
mixing here WCIT issue and UN discussion which can led to some confusion
and overlapping with other  existing sessions.

Please remove "WCIT/ITRs" from the title.
>

the title is not big deal per se about I am really worried that we are not
going to cover WCIT/ITR issue well.

Best Regards,

Rafik


> Thanks for your great help!
>
> Tomoe
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Yoshihiro Obata <
> ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Hong and all,
>>
>>  Please do nit misunderstand.
>>  Nothing is requested to change but the title.  The moderator, the
>> speakers and the content are the same.  It focuses on WCIT.
>>
>>  I think Mr.Drake was asked just to be on the panelist.  Not even a
>> presenter.
>>
>>  I also think that we should not interfere with the coordination unless
>> there are reasons.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Yoshihiro Obata
>>
>>
>> (2012/06/14 21:11), Hong Xue wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Obata-san,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the update. On the most latest excel file, I see Mr. Drake
>>> is listed as the (possible) Chair of the Session. I just had a chat
>>> with Drake. He is very interested in the session and willing to chair
>>> it. But he would like the session focused on WCIT issue, rather than
>>> the general international public policy. He is now drafting a few
>>> sentences to elaborate his proposal on how to navigate this session.
>>> I'm not sure the meaning of funding issue but assume that we may wish
>>> to prioritize substance. would you like to contact Drake directly for
>>> more detailed discussion?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hong
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Yoshihiro Obata
>>> <ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>
>>>>   The content and the speakers are unchanged.
>>>>   I think it is their funding issue.  If you think it is better keep the
>>>> WCIT term in the title for people who do not read the content of the
>>>> session
>>>> (which might be put on the web site soon), we can keep it in the sub
>>>> title
>>>> in some manner.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Yoshihiro Obata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (2012/06/14 19:02), Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Obata-san,
>>>>
>>>> I thought this session was intended to be about WCIT/ITR in particular
>>>> and
>>>> the new title is quite vague, any reason for such change?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2012/6/14 Yoshihiro Obata<ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.**net<ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>> Dear MSG members,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was asked by the session coordinator to change the title of the
>>>>> WCIT/ITR session to "International Public Policy and Internet
>>>>> Governance
>>>>> Issues Pertaining to the Internet".
>>>>>
>>>>> Please update the web site, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Yoshihiro Obata
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