<div dir="ltr">+1<div><br></div><div style>Hong</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Keith Davidson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:keith@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">keith@internetnz.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't really understand what the rush is. I would like us to take our<br>
time and select our chair and vice chairs without the due haste that is<br>
being proposed. I think it would be useful to have a period for<br>
nominations open through until the Bali IGF, where we can ask questions,<br>
and evaluate the nominees, and then cast our votes. I think as long as<br>
we have the new people in place before the end of the year, all will be<br>
good.<br>
<br>
I think the current chair and secretariat need to do the reporting in to<br>
the Bali workshops. And the current secretariat has been empowered to<br>
proceed with the negotiations with India for next years hosting. So<br>
other than this task, there is nothing on the agenda for the rest of<br>
this year.<br>
<br>
I therefore recommend we go through this process of selection of our new<br>
officers carefully and allow plenty of time for the nominations,<br>
discussion and selection processes.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Keith<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 13/09/2013 5:26 a.m., Adam Peake wrote:<br>
> Hi Kilnam,<br>
><br>
> I don't see how such a long delay is helpful. Also, relying on face to face meetings means many participants can't be involved in the decision, I think it would be better to try and reach consensus online.<br>
><br>
> And it would be good to have the chair and vice chairs in place before Bali so they can join the sessions organized to share regional IGF experiences.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Adam<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:50 AM, kilnam chon wrote:<br>
><br>
>> paul and all,<br>
>><br>
>> i recommend to go through the election immediately after bali igf where we could have face2face meetings including MSG Meeting.<br>
>><br>
>> we really need face2face meetings to exchange our ideas among us, and we did not<br>
>> have time to discuss on this matter during aprigf meeting last week.<br>
>><br>
>> i hope edmon could manage the aprigf during the interim period of this and next months as the acting chair.<br>
>><br>
>> if we could not delay the election until october, i would like to nominate edmon as<br>
>> the chair for one year. but, we need to come up with the deputy chairs at the same time, and edmon may need some time to discuss with vairous people on the deputy<br>
>> chairs and other matters. this would take time.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> for the igr meeting on regional and national igfs on october 21 during bali igf, i hope<br>
>> paul who managed the 2013 aprigf meeting as well as edmon as the acting chair<br>
>> to represent aprigf at the meeting.<br>
>><br>
>> chon<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Thanks Paul.<br>
>><br>
>> Could we give a bit more time to make sure people are able to respond to the call for nominations, then after nominations are in, see if we can reach consensus first on the list.<br>
>><br>
>> Nominations: open now until Friday September 20.<br>
>><br>
>> Reach consensus through the list, with a call for consensus during a call, Friday September 27.<br>
>><br>
>> After that we'll know if a vote's necessary, hopefully not.<br>
>><br>
>> And also need to be careful which lists we use. We tend to use two lists for general discussion <<a href="mailto:discuss@ap.rigf.asia">discuss@ap.rigf.asia</a>> and <<a href="mailto:rigf_program@aprigf.asia">rigf_program@aprigf.asia</a>>, and those would seem to have the most membership. But if it comes to a vote then votes are subscribers to the MSG list <<a href="mailto:msg@aprigf.asia">msg@aprigf.asia</a>>.<br>
>><br>
>> Nominations to discuss or program?<br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Adam<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Paul Wilson wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Dear all,<br>
>>><br>
>>> According to the MSG Operating Principles, we should appoint the Chair and vice-chairs of the MSG at the meeting tomorrow.<br>
>>><br>
>>> See: <a href="http://rigf.asia/documents/APrIGF_Operating%20Principles_of_MSG_20130506.pdf" target="_blank">http://rigf.asia/documents/APrIGF_Operating%20Principles_of_MSG_20130506.pdf</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Note that 2 vice-chairs are also needed, and they should be elected for 2-year staggered terms. Therefore we should elect 1 vice-chair for a 1-year term, and one for a 2-year term. The chair is elected for 2 years.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Formally I should step down before tomorrow's meeting and ask for an temporary chair to preside until the new chair is elected. Edmon has kindly agreed to do this.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Nominations for the chair positions should be sent to this mailing list, or else to Edmon, before the start of the meeting tomorrow.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Paul.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> PS the chair appointments would be considered as a decision of the MSG, therefore if it is possible to have a consensus decision tomorrow, then this should stand. otherwise a formal vote would be needed, and this will not be possible during tomorrow's meeting. In this case, Edmon would remain as acting chair until the election process is completed.<br>
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