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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Rajesh, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I frequently travel to India and think it would be good to keep time/cost in mind and choose a city with direct international flight connections, Goa always requires transfers. Bangalore or Hyderabad have direct international flights, although the latter has only few to Asia. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Waltraut Ritter<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hong Kong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rigf_program-bounces@aprigf.asia [mailto:rigf_program-bounces@aprigf.asia] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rajesh Chharia<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 August 2013 11:21<br><b>To:</b> Shahzad Ahmad; program@aprigf.asia APrIGF Committee<br><b>Cc:</b> APrIGF Secretariat; Yannis Li<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear Shahzad,<br><br>For proposed APrIGF in India, any concern, small or big is a concern of host. <br><br>Getting back to location issue, I have explore Goa and entire proposition is sounding cost effective and interesting. Today, I would explore Hyderabad and other venues discussed during our last conference call and received on mails.<br><br>See you all in Seoul.<br><br>Regards<br>Rajesh Chharia<br>+919811038188<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:shahzad@bytesforall.pk">Shahzad Ahmad</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>19-08-2013 13:36</span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:rc@cjnet4u.com">Rajesh Chharia</a>; <a href="mailto:program@aprigf.asia">program@aprigf.asia APrIGF Committee</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cc: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:sec@aprigf.asia">APrIGF Secretariat</a>; <a href="mailto:yannis@registry.asia">Yannis Li</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Re: [Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Rajesh,<br><br>There was never a doubt on what India has achieved. We have several friends<br>and partners in India, who we continue to work with virtually. However, when<br>it comes to any face to face meeting or interaction, it becomes too<br>challenging and exclusionary… though its only political situation to be<br>blamed for. <br><br>APrIGF is now shaping up to be a very important regional IG forum, where<br>many of us are keen to contribute and participate. We flagged visa issue<br>only for the reason that if it has to happen in India, some concrete<br>solutions can be put in place to minimize the possibility of exclusion of<br>neighboring countries. Following figures that you mentioned only reaffirms<br>our point of view. <br><br>You are right and for that matter, I would call several EU processes<br>exclusionary too precisely due to visa issues. But for APrIGF, we own it and<br>we wish to work with it hence this small note of concern.<br><br>Best wishes and regards<br>Shahzad<br><br>From: Rajesh Chharia <<a href="mailto:rc@cjnet4u.com">rc@cjnet4u.com</a>><br>Date: Monday, August 19, 2013 12:50 PM<br>To: "<a href="mailto:program@aprigf.asia%20APrIGF%20Committee">program@aprigf.asia APrIGF Committee</a>" <<a href="mailto:program@aprigf.asia">program@aprigf.asia</a>><br>Cc: APrIGF Secretariat <<a href="mailto:sec@aprigf.asia">sec@aprigf.asia</a>>, Yannis Li <<a href="mailto:yannis@registry.asia">yannis@registry.asia</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation<br><br>Dear All,<br><br>I can understand the view point of 2 members on visa issues. I must also<br>share the facts as under :<br><br>Recently, held SANOG August 2013 in Mumbai<br><br>Total Attendees: 223<br><br>Pakistan : 2<br>Bangladesh : 4<br>Sri Lanka : 1<br>Nepal : 7<br><br>APRICOT 2012 in New Delhi:<br><br>Total Attendees: 988<br><br>Pakistan : 1<br>Bangladesh : 10<br>Sri Lanka : 3<br>Nepal : 13<br><br>Ground realities on visa issues can be very specific as one can have the<br>same concern for China and for that matter, it can be for USA. We have to<br>bring participative approach and overlook any country specific issues for<br>conducting global events. In brief, issues particularly related to one or<br>two country's relationship should not deter to finalize venues. In a<br>lighter vein every second venue may have this or similar challenge. Having<br>said that, I would not absolve myself from the responsibility of helping the<br>members for the visa. I had done the same in the past.<br><br>India has over 900 million mobile subscriber and majority of them either on<br>or moving to smart phones for date. Further Indian Government have invested<br>4-5 Billion USD on Rural India Broadband project (BBNL) with a target of 600<br>Million Broadband users by 2020. Presently 150 million + Internet Users. In<br>my opinion, we should take such factors into consideration for organizing<br>events leading to all inclusiveness and the challenges for the same.<br><br>Hope my response is viewed in the spirit of togetherness if not on<br>boundaries, :-) atleast on Internet - A boundary-less world technology.<br><br><br>Best Regards,<br>Rajesh Chharia<br>+91 98110 38188<br><br><br><br><br>On 19-Aug-13, at 11:48 AM, AHM Bazlur Rahman wrote:<br><br>> Dear Professor & colleagues,<br>> <br>> Due to visa problem, I would like support to organise<br>> <br>> 2014 APrIGF in Nepal or Srilanka.<br>> <br>> <br>> With best regards,<br>> <br>> <br>> Bazlu<br>> <br>> ________________________<br>> AHM. Bazlur Rahman-S21BR | Chief Executive Officer |<br>> Bangladesh NGOs Network for Radio and Communication (BNNRC)<br>> [NGO in Special Consultative Status with the UN Economic and Social Council]<br>> <br>> House: 13/3, Road: 2, Shaymoli, Dhaka-1207| Bangladesh|<br>> Phone: +88-02-9130750| 9101479 | Cell: +88 01711881647<br>> Fax: 88-02-9138501 | E-mail: <a href="mailto:ceo@bnnrc.net">ceo@bnnrc.net</a> | bnnr <<a href="mailto:bnnrc@bd.drik.net">mailto:bnnrc@bd.drik.net</a>><br>> <a href="mailto:cbd@gmail.com">cbd@gmail.com</a> | <br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.bnnrc.net">www.bnnrc.net</a> <<a href="http://www.bnnrc.net/">http://www.bnnrc.net/</a>><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 19 August 2013 12:04, Shahzad Ahmad <<a href="mailto:shahzad@bytesforall.pk">shahzad@bytesforall.pk</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> Dear Professor & colleagues,<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> A small detail for your kind consideration while deciding on the venue for<br>>> 2014 APrIGF. <br>>> <br>>> For many of us in south Asian countries, visa processes are more exclusionary<br>>> than anything else. We feel that a regional event in India may result in<br>>> exclusion of quite a few of us e.g. participants from Pakistan, Sri Lanka,<br>>> Bangladesh etc. In the past, for Hyderabad IGF also, Pakistanis were unable<br>>> to attend because of cross border tensions.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> Thought we should flag this issue to all of you.<br>>> <br>>> Best wishes and regards<br>>> Shahzad<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <<a href="mailto:TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg">TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg</a>><br>>> Date: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:22 PM<br>>> To: Wu Kuo <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>>, Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>><br>>> Cc: APrIGF Secretariat <<a href="mailto:sec@aprigf.asia">sec@aprigf.asia</a>>, "<a href="mailto:program@aprigf.asia%20APrIGF%0b%3e%3e%20Committee">program@aprigf.asia APrIGF<br>>> Committee</a>" <<a href="mailto:program@aprigf.asia">program@aprigf.asia</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] Host 2014 Proposals Evaluation<br>>> <br>>> This is very good news indeed that we have another bidder.<br>>> <br>>> Given the introduction of the new competition, I would second Fouad's view<br>>> on the criterion of readiness. Rajesh and ISPAI had been pursuing the bid<br>>> to host an APrIGF for two years now. They have also attended various<br>>> <br>>> meetings and know what is expected in one of our meetings. The bid from<br>>> the University of Philippines Cebu is very encouraging but I think it has<br>>> underestimated the support--eg translation, live transcribing, live<br>>> <br>>> webcast--that we have come to expect.<br>>> <br>>> It would be good if Espinosa, who submitted the bid, be informed of the<br>>> support expected and if he could attend the meeting in Seoul so he knows<br>>> <br>>> what is expected.<br>>> <br>>> Regards,<br>>> Peng Hwa<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> On 16/8/13 6:56 PM, "Wu Kuo" <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> <br>>>> Basically I agree, but leave the decision to the committee. Yannis is<br>>>> helping in the administration to provide support and prepare the<br>>>> <br>>>> documentation.<br>>>> <br>>>> Kuo Wu<br>>>> <br>>>> <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>從我的</span> iPhone <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>傳送</span><br>>>> <br>>>> Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>> <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>於</span> 2013/8/16 18:19 <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>寫道：</span><br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>>> Dear Yannis and all,<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Thank you for sharing this. I would like to request you to kindly<br>>>>> share which proposal came in first. For members of this list, it is<br>>>>> prudent to note that we can adopt a first come first considered<br>>>>> approach and build an order according to proposals. There should also<br>>>>> <br>>>>> be some sort of criterion to understand the readiness of a country to<br>>>>> host such an event.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> If ISPAI and NIXI, India has presented the proposal first in the order<br>>>>> of submissions, and, the Department of Computer Science, University of<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Philippines Cebu is second in that order of submission, the first EOI<br>>>>> should be considered for the coming year whereas the next year may be<br>>>>> considered for the second EOI.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Secondly, regional diversity is also an important consideration for<br>>>>> selection of a venue. So far, we have haven't had a APrIGF activity in<br>>>>> South Asia. May I propose for the program committee members to<br>>>>> <br>>>>> consider a host country EOI to be considered in order of submission<br>>>>> and on the basis of the need for regional diversity?<br>>>>> <br>>>>> Best<br>>>>> <br>>>>> --<br>>>>> Regards.<br>>>>> <br>>>>> --------------------------<br>>>>> Fouad Bajwa<br>>>>> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor<br>>>>> My Blog: Internet's Governance: <a href="http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/">http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/</a><br>>>>> <br>>>>> Follow my Tweets: <a href="http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa">http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa</a><br>>>>> <br>>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:11 PM, APrIGF Secretariat <<a href="mailto:sec@aprigf.asia">sec@aprigf.asia</a>><br>>>>> <br>>>>> wrote:<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Dear Program Committee,<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Would like to make a clarification that we have received 1 more<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> additional<br>>>>>> proposal within the deadline. Therefore there are in total 2 proposals<br>>>>>> received from the below parties:<br>>>>>> 1. ISPAI and NIXI, India<br>>>>>> 2. Department of Computer Science, University of Philippines Cebu<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Attached both proposals for your reference.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> In that case, we Secretariat will go through both proposals and<br>>>>>> compile a<br>>>>>> comparison sheet based on the set of selection criteria from the RFP<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> and<br>>>>>> circulate to the PC next Monday for further discussion during next<br>>>>>> meeting.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Thank you very much.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Best Regards,<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Yannis Li<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Secretariat of APrIGF<br>>>>>> DotAsia Organisation Ltd.<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>>>> ------------------------<br>>>>>> Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong<br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> Kong<br>>>>>> Tel: +852 5802 2500 <<a href="tel:%2B852%205802%202500">tel:%2B852%205802%202500</a>> <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>＿</span>Fax: +852 5802 2502<br>>>>>> <<a href="tel:%2B852%205802%202502">tel:%2B852%205802%202502</a>> <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>＿</span><a href="http://www.aprigf.asia">http://www.aprigf.asia</a><br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> <br>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>> Rigf_program mailing list<br>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Rigf_program@aprigf.asia">Rigf_program@aprigf.asia</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>[The entire original message is not included.]<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>