<div dir="ltr">A bit belated, but +1 to Adam's suggestions.<div><br></div><div>izumi</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/14 Adam Peake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp" target="_blank">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'd also not noticed the announcement on the <<a href="http://2013.rigf.asia/" target="_blank">http://2013.rigf.asia/</a>> site:<br>
<br>
"Please suggest agenda items you would like to discuss at the meeting<br>
in Seoul by E-mail. MARCH 31, 2013"<br>
<br>
A bit too hidden away, and not something we can use to send around in<br>
email to various lists, etc. I thought there was an announcement of a<br>
call for contributions, think I remember discussion of such, but I<br>
have been dropping in and out of the program committee/had problems<br>
making calls so haven't contributed as much as I should.<br>
<br>
Suggest we add some text to the website that can also be used in email<br>
to lists/organizations/individuals. Creating a mailing list people<br>
could join and use to discuss themes and the program would be good.<br>
<br>
The announcement should make clear it is an open call for proposals on<br>
the theme of the 2013 APrIGF, and proposals on main sessions and<br>
sub-sessions (workshops).<br>
<br>
Include a link to the draft proposal from the Korean hosts (the<br>
powerpoint included with YJ's email of a few days ago). It's good and<br>
Illustrates the number of sessions and parallel sessions.<br>
<br>
Invite people to submit comments by email, and invite those interested<br>
in participating discussion to join a program mailing list (need a new<br>
list.)<br>
<br>
Also suggest a bit more time's needed, is the end of April too late?<br>
<br>
And it should include the dates and location of the APrIGF (September<br>
4-6, 2013, Ewha Womans University, Seoul, Korea) and organizers (I<br>
think: KIGA, ISOC-kr, and KISA, APrIGF, Korea Communications<br>
Commission, Ewha Womans University).<br>
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Adam<br>
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Paul Wilson <<a href="mailto:pwilson@apnic.net">pwilson@apnic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Thanks Adam.<br>
><br>
> These issues were raised again in Singapore, and so I agree that action is<br>
> needed in terms of open and clear processes that fulfil multistakeholder<br>
> expectations. This has been agreed already, more than once, so I don't<br>
> think there is any need to interpret reluctance on anyone's part, or to<br>
> expect any argument about the basic need.<br>
><br>
> Of course the themes, format and agenda for any IGF meeting should be<br>
> assembled through an open process and we can do that in this case through<br>
> an open call as Adam suggests. The <a href="http://rigf.asia" target="_blank">rigf.asia</a> does already contain a call<br>
> for suggestions, with closing date of 31 March, which I was not aware of.<br>
> That's a good start but I think this needs to be opened up in an online<br>
> forum or open mailing list which allows discussion and visibility of other<br>
> comments. Also the opportunity to provide input needs to be widely<br>
> advertised as Adam suggests.<br>
><br>
> I would also suggest that the Host's draft programme (which is excellent<br>
> by the way) can be considered as a proposal, and I suggest to publish it<br>
> as such, which allows the community to respond to it, as well as to make<br>
> "original contributions" of their own.<br>
><br>
> We do have time to do this, providing that we start soon, so I hope that<br>
> this can be added to the agenda for Friday's call. I would think that<br>
> the deadline can be extended by another month to the end of April, without<br>
> causing too much trouble.<br>
><br>
> There are other issues around the next IGF to be discussed as well, so I<br>
> hope we have space on the agenda. We need to determine a timeline for<br>
> decision on location, on the MSG (programme committee) and other critical<br>
> milestones.<br>
><br>
> Paul.<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>><br>
> Date: Tuesday, 12 March 2013 1:15 PM<br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:program@ap.rigf.asia">program@ap.rigf.asia</a> PC" <<a href="mailto:program@ap.rigf.asia">program@ap.rigf.asia</a>><br>
> Cc: vivek anannd <<a href="mailto:vivekvc2001@yahoo.co.in">vivekvc2001@yahoo.co.in</a>>, Rinalia Abdul Rahim<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com">rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [Rigf_program] public call for comments, APrIGF 2013<br>
><br>
>>Hi everyone,<br>
>><br>
>>I am not sure if I can make Friday's call, it's around the time I need<br>
>>to catch a train. But a couple of things concerning me about progress<br>
>>and mainly process so far.<br>
>><br>
>>We had some lengthy discussions following last years APrIGF and the<br>
>>IGF in Baku about organizing the APrIGF, particularly opening the<br>
>>process, ensuring it was more inclusive, transparent and accountable<br>
>>to the region's stakeholders. Unless I'm much mistaken, we now seem<br>
>>to be proceeding much the same as the previous 3 years.<br>
>><br>
>>I suggest we hold for a while on developing the agenda further and put<br>
>>out for public comment what we have so far:<br>
>><br>
>>Location and dates of the meeting. Support received so far. An<br>
>>outline of what the meeting might look like, i.e. a blank schedule, to<br>
>>show plenary and concurrent sessions. I want to be clear, I think our<br>
>>Korean hosts are doing a great job. These comments are *not*<br>
>>criticism, *not* intended as negative.<br>
>><br>
>>I suggest we issue a public call to help convene the meeting. The<br>
>>call can mirror the global IGF process, ask for ideas for an overall<br>
>>theme for main sessions (how many can there be?) and ideas for<br>
>>sub-themes (how many can there be?). At the same time, reasonable to<br>
>>include all the themes already suggested.<br>
>><br>
>>Set a date for submitting comments. Each of us should outreach to our<br>
>>respective networks and contacts to make sure the call for comments is<br>
>>widely seen. Someone should be responsible for contacting the<br>
>>Indonesian IGF team (I met them in Paris, happy to introduce if<br>
>>necessary.)<br>
>><br>
>>If we don't do this I'm concerned we are going to again face<br>
>>criticism, probably more severe than before.<br>
>><br>
>>Best,<br>
>><br>
>>Adam<br>
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