<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>+1 to Paul's comments (albeit a bit late in the piece).<br><br>Raj<br><br><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net><br><b>To: </b>"Adam Peake" <ajp@glocom.ac.jp>, "program@ap.rigf.asia PC" <program@ap.rigf.asia><br><b>Cc: </b>"vivek anannd" <vivekvc2001@yahoo.co.in>, "Rinalia Abdul Rahim" <rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:08:16 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Rigf_program] public call for comments, APrIGF 2013<br><br>Thanks Adam.<br><br>These issues were raised again in Singapore, and so I agree that action is<br>needed in terms of open and clear processes that fulfil multistakeholder<br>expectations. This has been agreed already, more than once, so I don't<br>think there is any need to interpret reluctance on anyone's part, or to<br>expect any argument about the basic need.<br><br>Of course the themes, format and agenda for any IGF meeting should be<br>assembled through an open process and we can do that in this case through<br>an open call as Adam suggests. The rigf.asia does already contain a call<br>for suggestions, with closing date of 31 March, which I was not aware of.<br>That's a good start but I think this needs to be opened up in an online<br>forum or open mailing list which allows discussion and visibility of other<br>comments. Also the opportunity to provide input needs to be widely<br>advertised as Adam suggests.<br><br>I would also suggest that the Host's draft programme (which is excellent<br>by the way) can be considered as a proposal, and I suggest to publish it<br>as such, which allows the community to respond to it, as well as to make<br>"original contributions" of their own.<br><br>We do have time to do this, providing that we start soon, so I hope that<br>this can be added to the agenda for Friday's call. I would think that<br>the deadline can be extended by another month to the end of April, without<br>causing too much trouble.<br><br>There are other issues around the next IGF to be discussed as well, so I<br>hope we have space on the agenda. We need to determine a timeline for<br>decision on location, on the MSG (programme committee) and other critical<br>milestones.<br><br>Paul.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp><br>Date: Tuesday, 12 March 2013 1:15 PM<br>To: "program@ap.rigf.asia PC" <program@ap.rigf.asia><br>Cc: vivek anannd <vivekvc2001@yahoo.co.in>, Rinalia Abdul Rahim<br><rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com><br>Subject: [Rigf_program] public call for comments, APrIGF 2013<br><br>>Hi everyone,<br>><br>>I am not sure if I can make Friday's call, it's around the time I need<br>>to catch a train. But a couple of things concerning me about progress<br>>and mainly process so far.<br>><br>>We had some lengthy discussions following last years APrIGF and the<br>>IGF in Baku about organizing the APrIGF, particularly opening the<br>>process, ensuring it was more inclusive, transparent and accountable<br>>to the region's stakeholders. Unless I'm much mistaken, we now seem<br>>to be proceeding much the same as the previous 3 years.<br>><br>>I suggest we hold for a while on developing the agenda further and put<br>>out for public comment what we have so far:<br>><br>>Location and dates of the meeting. Support received so far. An<br>>outline of what the meeting might look like, i.e. a blank schedule, to<br>>show plenary and concurrent sessions. I want to be clear, I think our<br>>Korean hosts are doing a great job. These comments are *not*<br>>criticism, *not* intended as negative.<br>><br>>I suggest we issue a public call to help convene the meeting. The<br>>call can mirror the global IGF process, ask for ideas for an overall<br>>theme for main sessions (how many can there be?) and ideas for<br>>sub-themes (how many can there be?). At the same time, reasonable to<br>>include all the themes already suggested.<br>><br>>Set a date for submitting comments. Each of us should outreach to our<br>>respective networks and contacts to make sure the call for comments is<br>>widely seen. Someone should be responsible for contacting the<br>>Indonesian IGF team (I met them in Paris, happy to introduce if<br>>necessary.)<br>><br>>If we don't do this I'm concerned we are going to again face<br>>criticism, probably more severe than before.<br>><br>>Best,<br>><br>>Adam<br>>_______________________________________________<br>>Rigf_program mailing list<br>>Rigf_program@ap.rigf.asia<br>>https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/rigf_program<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Rigf_program mailing list<br>Rigf_program@ap.rigf.asia<br>https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/rigf_program<br></div><br></div></body></html>