<p>agreement to that plan from me Edmond ... let's doodle all those options though...</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 3, 2012 8:11 PM, "Edmon Chung" <<a href="mailto:edmon@registry.asia">edmon@registry.asia</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I would like to suggest having a conference call before Baku to talk a bit about this.<br>
If others agree... perhaps will send around a doodle to try something late next week (Sep 12/13/14) or early the week of Sep 17th.<br>
Edmon<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:rigf_secretariat-bounces@ap.rigf.asia">rigf_secretariat-bounces@ap.rigf.asia</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rigf_secretariat-bounces@ap.rigf.asia">rigf_secretariat-bounces@ap.rigf.asia</a>] On Behalf Of Wu Kuo<br>
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To: Ang Hwa Peng<br>
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Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested<br>
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Dr. Sir of KISA, Korea will be IGF Baku meeting. So we have more people in Baku for the meeting (I just received his message).<br>
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Kuo Wu<br>
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Izumi AIZU 於 2012/9/2 下午12:55 寫道：<br>
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> Indonesian Government person is Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono.<br>
><br>
> He is on the IGF MAG, and I believe trying to host global IGF in 2013,<br>
> am not sure if that is 100% confirmed, but highly likely. He has two<br>
> hats:<br>
><br>
> Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono<br>
> Executive Team Member of the National ICT Council, Republic of Indonesia.<br>
><br>
> Director of Postgraduate Program,<br>
> Budi Luhur University,<br>
> Jakarta, Indonesia.<br>
><br>
> We sent invitation letter to him for this year's APrIGF, and due to<br>
> late invitation/planning, he wanted but could not join.<br>
><br>
> I don't think Indonesia will host one global and one regional in the<br>
> same year or consecutively, but I think it is better to let them be<br>
> inside the loop for APrIGF (among others).<br>
><br>
> izumi<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2012/9/2 Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> That is exactly what I had heard about KISA and SKs commitment.It is<br>
>> the reason that I was pointing this out because within IGF related<br>
>> activities, any body that takes up a regional IGF activity should<br>
>> also build up the stakeholder confidence and trust in its processes<br>
>> so that a legitimacy may be sustainably established.<br>
>><br>
>> India's interest can be confirmed and kept for 2014 so that they also<br>
>> have time to commit and prepare. If you take the APrIGF to South<br>
>> Asia, then there will have to be considerable effort to convince and<br>
>> bring in South Asian governments, academic, civil society,<br>
>> researchers, private sector. The cooperation basis in that region is<br>
>> very tense due to the war on terror and other inter-regional issues<br>
>> that have been part of a strained history of relations. It would also<br>
>> mean to convince SAARC the South Asian Association Regional<br>
>> Cooperation into the process.<br>
>><br>
>> One thing that is missing from the APrIGF as Parminder had also<br>
>> pointed out is both balanced representation of stakeholder groups in<br>
>> the process while I also believe in Prof Peng's stance that new<br>
>> things take time to build up but if the proper combined effort is<br>
>> made this can be achieved.<br>
>><br>
>> I can even organize a APrIGF in Pakistan but without having a local<br>
>> commitment to the IGF process does not enable a successful<br>
>> cooperation for that to happen between all the stakeholder groups so<br>
>> as Paul also points out, there needs to be a detailed level of<br>
>> commitment and clarity in purpose of the process legitimizing the MSG participation.<br>
>><br>
>> Best<br>
>><br>
>> FoOodafied!<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ching Chiao <<a href="mailto:chiao@registry.asia">chiao@registry.asia</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Dear all -- I've worked with KISA for a successful APNG Camp last<br>
>>> month in Seoul. As Dr. Sir told me -- the budget of 2013 APrIGF in<br>
>>> Korea has been booked and keep in mind they are a government agency<br>
>>> therefore the commitment is 200% there (the other 100% is that if<br>
>>> the meeting is not happening there will be a consequence). On the<br>
>>> other hand, I remember when I helped chair the AP* meeting earlier<br>
>>> this year in New Delhi, we did talk about recognizing Korea's<br>
>>> interest back then and we thank them for give ways to Japan for this<br>
>>> year's meeting (and at that time KISA does not have a meeting proposal).<br>
>>><br>
>>> I do not know if YJ Park is on this list. I know she's been involved<br>
>>> in Korean IGF and is the main international contact. Ms. Jin from<br>
>>> KISA was also assigned to prepare for IGF.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ching<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU <<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org">iza@anr.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi, yes, I will be in Baku and willing to join the meeting, and I<br>
>>>> also agree with Paul and others that it's time for us to define the<br>
>>>> process in an open manner - so as not to be blamed yet again - for<br>
>>>> selection of the next venue and also define ourselves - who are<br>
>>>> organizing the APrIGF under which terms and conditions, again this<br>
>>>> should be open and transparent.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> izumi<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2012/9/2 Keith Davidson <<a href="mailto:keith@internetnz.net.nz">keith@internetnz.net.nz</a>>:<br>
>>>>> Hi Peng Hwa, all,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I will be in Baku and support the idea of getting together to discuss.<br>
>>>>> Perhaps we should concentrate on establishing 2 sub committees of<br>
>>>>> the main group, to deal specifically with:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures<br>
>>>>> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> And perhaps establishing a charter for these sub committees ??<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> While it has been great not to have to be confined by rules and<br>
>>>>> regulations since our inception, it does appear that we will have<br>
>>>>> to have more robust and transparent processes for the future.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Cheers<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Keith<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 31/08/2012 5:12 p.m., Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:<br>
>>>>>> Folks,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just<br>
>>>>>> two of us.<br>
>>>>>> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for<br>
>>>>>> hosting out. That was Wednesday.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the<br>
>>>>>> Government of India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed<br>
>>>>>> interest to host the 2013 APrIGF in India. Some people here at<br>
>>>>>> the APNIC conference seem to suggest that India would make a<br>
>>>>>> better choice. The South Asia region would be more likely to<br>
>>>>>> attend.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course<br>
>>>>>> prompt the South Koreans to respond.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the<br>
>>>>>> opportunity to iron out the civil society process issues. But it<br>
>>>>>> would be best to get the bid documents out and then get a firm<br>
>>>>>> decision at Baku in early November. Having lived in India, I am a<br>
>>>>>> bit concerned that they may need more time should they win the<br>
>>>>>> bid.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>>>> Peng Hwa<br>
>>>>>><br>
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