I'm not sure i understand this email. I agree to the proposed title change if that's the question. <div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Yoshihiro Obata <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ObataYoshihiro@eaccess.net" target="_blank">ObataYoshihiro@eaccess.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear all,<br>
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I just noticed that I received an email that Google and its speakers agreed with the original change to "Evolution of Internet governance models". Since William is on the list of this email, I would like to agree to the change after his confirmation on whether the other proposals are better or not.<br>
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However, please finish this discussion by early afternoon tomorrow. Some materials may not be changed later.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
Yoshihiro Obata<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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(2012/07/11 18:12), Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
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I have no real preference at this stage.<br>
<br>
Change may look better, but feels a bit odd at this stage.<br>
<br>
izumi<br>
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2012/7/11 Yoshihiro Obata <<a href="mailto:ObataYoshihiro@eaccess.net" target="_blank">ObataYoshihiro@eaccess.net</a>>:<br>
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Dear MSG members,<br>
<br>
As I stated before, I do not like to change it at this stage without<br>
your majority support. Since we are at the final stage of working for<br>
printing materials, we need it very soon.<br>
If we do not see many responses by the end of today, I would like to<br>
propose a quick poll tomorrow by Peng Hwa or a chairman's decision and<br>
fix the issue by the end of tomorrow.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Yoshihiro Obata<br>
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(2012/07/11 17:20), Adam Peake wrote:<br>
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Hi everyone.<br>
<br>
Pablo's right "pertaining to the Internet" is redundant in the title.<br>
Suggest title as either<br>
<br>
(1) "International Public Policy and Internet Governance"<br>
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or<br>
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(2) "International Public Policy Issues Pertaining to the Internet"<br>
<br>
And given the ITU council working group named "international<br>
Internet-related public policy issues", the first of those names<br>
probably better.<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Pablo Hinojosa <<a href="mailto:pablo@apnic.net" target="_blank">pablo@apnic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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Dear Yoshiro Obata,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your message. Not the purpose of my message to bring<br>
confusion.<br>
<br>
Great to be proved wrong that the title doesn't imply supporting<br>
activities such as the closed ITU CWG-Internet. This is good news.<br>
<br>
I guess we all agree that the current multistakeholder model is the one<br>
that we need to care for and promote its evolution within this<br>
framework. I offered an alternative title, but I am open to any<br>
suggestions. Perhaps title can be "Evolution of the current Internet<br>
governance model"?<br>
<br>
My point is that the current title is heavily charged with the ITU<br>
connotation and the implication of "Internet Governance issues<br>
pertaining to the Internet" doesn't make much sense.<br>
<br>
Pablo<br>
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On 11/07/12 5:49 PM, Yoshihiro Obata wrote:<br>
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Dear German and Pablo,<br>
<br>
I am a little confused.<br>
As far as I understand, the session covers many UN like activities<br>
which are trying to manage the Internet. Basically, all of the speakers<br>
are against such idea. The reason why the title is such is that it is<br>
the name for all of these activities.<br>
If you are suggesting that the title implies that it "supports" such<br>
activity, that is a wrong assumption. I think you need to read the<br>
abstract of the session.<br>
Secondly, I do not think the presenters will propose any new Internet<br>
governance model so that your proposal of "evolution" may not fit well.<br>
I think what we want to stick with is the multistakeholder model as<br>
it is right now.<br>
<br>
Anyway, my understanding is that we let the coordinator propose their<br>
session title unless their is a conflict or confusion with other<br>
sessions or the majority of the MSG think that the title does not fit well.<br>
<br>
I do not have any strong position on the change but I do not support<br>
nor refuse the change for the reasons above.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Yoshihiro Obata<br>
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(2012/07/11 16:23), German Valdez wrote:<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
I'm forwarding this message to the list on behalf of Pablo Hinojosa.<br>
<br>
Please if you need to reply include Pablo in the cc.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
German<br>
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Subject: Look forward to see you in Tokyo.... and session M4<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:12:07 +1000<br>
From: Pablo Hinojosa <<a href="mailto:pablo@apnic.net" target="_blank">pablo@apnic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pablo@apnic.net" target="_blank">pablo@apnic.net</a>>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:program@ap.rigf.asia" target="_blank">program@ap.rigf.asia</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:program@ap.rigf.asia" target="_blank">program@ap.rigf.asia</a>><br>
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Hello from APNIC,<br>
<br>
Hope all is well. I look forward to meet you next week at the APrIGF in<br>
Tokyo.<br>
<br>
I have not been involved in the discussions that lead to the preparation<br>
of the forum, although some of my colleagues in APNIC have. When we were<br>
preparing our participation for next week, the following issue caught<br>
our attention. It is the title of panel M4: "International Public Policy<br>
and Internet Governance Issues Pertaining to the Internet"<br>
<br>
First thing is that I would be interested to attend this session and I<br>
am sure there will be a rich discussion.<br>
<br>
However, I noticed that the title of the session is a bit strange and<br>
wondered if it refers to, for example, the ITU's Council Working Group<br>
on international Internet-related public policy issues (CWG-Internet):<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.itu.int/council/groups/CWG-internet/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/council/<u></u>groups/CWG-internet/index.html</a><br>
<br>
And also if there are Internet governance issues that *does not* pertain<br>
to the Internet.<br>
<br>
Wonder if, even at this late stage, there could be a consideration to<br>
change the title of this session, for example, to: "evolution of<br>
Internet governance models"?<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Pablo Hinojosa<br>
APNIC<br>
<a href="tel:%2B61430147274" value="+61430147274" target="_blank">+61430147274</a><br>
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