I believe both are complementary, not mutually exclusive.<div><br></div><div>Izumi<span></span><br><br>2012$BG/(B5$B7n(B13$BF|F|MKF|(B Hong Xue <a href="mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com">hongxueipr@gmail.com</a>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi, if most people believe that the list be the primary discussion<br>
forum, we may not organize conference calls, in which few participated<br>
anyway. Calls are time consuming.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Izumi AIZU <<a>iza@anr.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> The Final version was v5, sent to this list.<br>
> However it is just CFP not program itself, or do you mean the latest<br>
> program?<br>
> That was sent by Peng Hwa in Word format.<br>
> We need to wait for May 24 deadline to acceptore proposals and then shape<br>
> them to final as as evolving way.<br>
><br>
> Izumi<br>
><br>
> 2012$BG/(B5$B7n(B13$BF|F|MKF|(B Wu Kuo <a>kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>:<br>
><br>
>> I just reply PengHwa's email. Where is the final version? or we still<br>
>> modify it?<br>
>><br>
>> :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Kuo Wu<br>
>><br>
>> Hong Xue $B1w(B 2012/5/13 $B>e8a(B8:46 $BUmF;!'(B<br>
>><br>
>> > It seems the discussions at the conference calls were not got through<br>
>> > to the community, neither were the proposals circulated to the list.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Wu Kuo <<a>kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> Here is my suggestion:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 1. For those countries running "local IGF in their societies", the<br>
>> >> topic should be "how to raise the community to recognize the importance of<br>
>> >> IGF for their society"? In stead of "sequential reports" (and I think, that<br>
>> >> is not that many). I can talk about "what happen in Taiwan now" (although<br>
>> >> not much, the society focus on very local political issue than international<br>
>> >> global issue recently).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 2. Such as "ICT for disaster", Japan already prepare to give a talk and<br>
>> >> their action recently. Hopefully, there are some people willing to join the<br>
>> >> discussion to share their experience. I know one person in Taiwan did a lot<br>
>> >> of work in this issue when Taiwan had a big flooding killing thousand<br>
>> >> people, and damaging hundreds of twins and people on Aug. 8th, 2009. I try<br>
>> >> to get him to join the session.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 3. "Confrontation on Internet", which we can have some one to describe<br>
>> >> SOPA/PIPA in US congress, some one talk about the development on ACTA in EC,<br>
>> >> and some one talk about the topic can be happened in IGF/Baku (Paul might be<br>
>> >> a good person, since he is a member of MAG). As I know, Dr. William Drake is<br>
>> >> coming to the APrIGF, he is a wright person to talk about the possible<br>
>> >> political development in WCIT. If necessary, I can be the moderator if no<br>
>> >> one want to be. :-)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 4. Then we have to have a closing session to summary up what we have in<br>
>> >> this meeting. Peng Hwa is the best person to do that and work it out. So he<br>
>> >> can continue to report it in IGF/Baku for us.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Kuo Wu<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) $B1w(B 2012/5/12 $B2<8a(B5:23 $BUmF;!'(B<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> Agreed too. An issues-based panel would be more interesting than<br>
>> >>> sequential reporting.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> The session would need a more pro-active and engaged panel chair.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> On 12/5/12 3:30 PM, "Paul Wilson" <<a>pwilson@apnic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>>> I agree, a session on country IGF activities would be a good thing.<br>
>> >>>> Can<br>
>> >>>> we find out more precisely how many of those there will be?<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> I think the structure of the session deserves some thought - because<br>
>> >>>> the<br>
>> >>>> least interesting is to have a series of sequential free-form<br>
>> >>>> reports,<br>
>> >>>> without preparation or structure. Perhaps a panel-format with<br>
>> >>>> discussion<br>
>> >>>> organised by theme?<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Maybe we could have discussion not only of the content but of the<br>
>> >>>> form<br>
>--<br>
Professor Dr. Hong Xue<br>
Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)<br>
Beijing Normal University<br>
<a href="http://www.iipl.org.cn/" target="_blank">http://www.iipl.org.cn/</a><br>
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street<br>
Beijing 100875 China<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br> >> Izumi Aizu <<<br>Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo<br>Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, <br>Japan<br><a href="http://www.anr.org" target="_blank">www.anr.org</a><br>
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