[Rigf_program] Starting 2013 with a few questions

Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg
Wed Feb 13 15:26:01 HKT 2013 

Apologies for coming in late to the discussion. The email system was down Thursday morning and down again sometime during the Lunar New Year break. I thought my low email volume was due to the holiday but I guess now not.

To answer Kilnam's query:

>> The programme committee did good work for sure, however the manner of its constitution needs to be improved, to ensure that it is properly assembled as a multistakeholder group.  We have discussed the assembly of the Multistakeholder Steering Group to do the work of the programme committee, however that still needs to be finalised.
>
>paul and others,
>
>will you elaborate more on this matter specifically?
>what do our community need to come/make up now?
>
>chon

The background to this is that the way the APrIGF is to be organised should reflect the spirit of the multistakeholder process. This means the inclusion of government and business with us the civil society group. The group of us who started the APrIGF had done so with little support from government and business. This is probably understandable in Asia as governments and business are cautious about this new entity.

We believe we have reached a certain level of credibility so that both government and business are now more forthcoming. They are participating in the conference as speakers and sponsors.

We need to involve both stakeholder groups more and earlier at the pre-conference organising stage.

There have been some exchanges around this issue as it involves the legitimacy of the group organising the event, as well as the event itself.

Izumi has been drafting a couple of documents regarding the issue. It will be an item for discussion at the coming teleconference as well as APRICOT meeting.

What your community can do is to ensure that at the minimum, representatives from the three stakeholder groups are invited to be part of the local hosting committee. Ideally, all three groups would have an equal number of equally enthusiastic representatives. Well aware that we are not in paradise (yet), in practice an invitation to ensure that no group is left out should suffice for now.

Regards,
Peng Hwa


-----Original Message-----
From: rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia [mailto:rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of kilnam chon
Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2013 9:47 AM
To: Paul Wilson
Cc: APrIGF PC; APrIGF Secretariat
Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] Starting 2013 with a few questions

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:
>
> On 07/02/2013, at 10:19 AM, kilnam chon wrote:
>
>> i will miss the meeting as i will be in a plane across the pacific then.
>> a few comments;
>>
>> 1. program committee
>>    hope to see the program committee to be activated now.  since the
>>    2012 program committee did credible work, i recommend to keep
>>    the same program committee with incremental enhancement.
>
> The programme committee did good work for sure, however the manner of its constitution needs to be improved, to ensure that it is properly assembled as a multistakeholder group.  We have discussed the assembly of the Multistakeholder Steering Group to do the work of the programme committee, however that still needs to be finalised.

paul and others,

will you elaborate more on this matter specifically?
what do our community need to come/make up now?

chon

>
>>
>> 2. organizing committee
>>    hope to see the next year venue to be announced one year in
>> advance.  this implies that we need to post the call for proposal on
>>    2014  aprigf now.  since  some countries are ready to apply, we
>>    should not have any problem as long as we have a functioning
>>    organizing committee.
>
> I do agree with the timeline, so that the 2014 event can be announced at the 2013 event, at the latest.
>
>> 3. youth program
>>    hope to see good youth program.  we may consider to coordinate
>>    with the related youth program such as IGF youth program, and/or
>>    APNG Camp, and even ICANN.  hope to see somebody/some group
>>    to take this challenge to give good opportunity to the next generation.
>
> Agree!
>
> Paul.
>
>
>>
>> hope to join the next meetings.
>>
>> chon
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:
>>> Great news!  Thanks Yannis.
>>>
>>> I'm sure members of this list would be happy to provide cpmments and feedback prior to launch, if you would like to ask.
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/02/2013, at 3:02 PM, APrIGF Secretariat wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the current website, our webmaster is working on it and shall be available for the announcement to IGF secretariat  this week.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Yannis Li
>>>> Secretariat of APrIGF
>>>> DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -----------------------------
>>>> Address: 15F, 6 Knutsford Terrace, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong
>>>> Tel: +852 3520 2635   ︳Fax: +852 3520 2634   ︳http://www.aprigf.asia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Feb 2013, at 7:24 AM, Paul Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yannis,
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the web presence, I assume that KISA is working on a separate site for this event, and I hope that this can be launched soon.
>>>>
>>>> However who is responsible for http://rigf.asia/ ?
>>>>
>>>> Right now that redirects to the 2012 site and there is no sign of 2013.  Likewise there is no sign of this year's meeting on the main IGF website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/
>>>>
>>>> I really hope we can get basic information published soon.  Dates at least, so that calendars can be prepared.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31/01/2013, at 4:30 PM, APrIGF Secretariat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for leaving this list quiet for quite a while. Was planning to send out something these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have had meeting with KISA's team.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is now confirmed with the below details:
>>>>> Date: 4-6 Sep (APrIGF), 3-5 Sep (yIGF)
>>>>> Venue: EWHA Woman University, Seoul
>>>>>
>>>>> During APRICOT 2013, as said earlier, there will be a APrIGF discussion meeting during AP* retreat (www.apstar.org).
>>>>> Date:  24 Feb (Sun)
>>>>> Time: 13:30- 15:00 (Singapore Time)
>>>>> Venue: Shangri-La Hotel, Singapore
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the website, KISA is already working on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last teleconferences audio: Click here to download I shall have a
>>>>> short summary before our next meeting ready.
>>>>> Have created new links for Izumi's shared docs which allows editing from everybody.
>>>>> Click Here for Operating Principles and MSG / Click Here for RFP
>>>>> for Local Hosts
>>>>>
>>>>> Please kindly fill out the doodle to decide our next teleconference call time.
>>>>> http://doodle.com/rdqyks6ymth66eye
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all for your attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yannis Li
>>>>> Secretariat of APrIGF
>>>>> DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Address: 15F, 6 Knutsford Terrace, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong
>>>>> Tel: +852 3520 2635   ︳Fax: +852 3520 2634   ︳http://www.aprigf.asia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 31 Jan 2013, at 1:56 PM, Paul Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy New Year to you all.
>>>>>
>>>>> This list is very quiet, but I think it is time to get started on
>>>>> planning for this year's event.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start with a few questionsŠ
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have venue and timing details for the actual event, in Korea?
>>>>> Do we have a date (and agenda) for the next teleconference?
>>>>> Any plan for a meeting during APRICOT 2013 in Singapore?
>>>>> Do we have minutes from the past planning meetings?
>>>>> When will the website be updated (rigf.asia)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if that seems a little pushy, but if these things are not
>>>>> getting done yet, we find a way to get on track.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, best regards to all, and hope to see you soon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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