[Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested

Wed Sep 5 17:50:55 HKT 2012

Dear Professor,

Unfortunately I saw your message only after my meeting with Dr. Govind.
However, in the brief discussion I had with him on the APrIGF proposal, I
did mention that Korea had also put in a bid last year, and that that would
likely be put up for consideration this year as well. As long as both bids
get equal consideration, I don't think he felt that posed an issue.

One question Dr. Govind had was how to get hold of the bid
documents/requirements. Would it be possible to send these across as soon
as possible? I'd be happy to forward them to him, or you could send them
directly, of course - in the latter case I'd be grateful if you could let
me know, however, as I had promised him I'd follow up on this.

Looking forward to discussing procedures etc. in greater detail in the call.
Thanks and best regards,
Anja

On 4 September 2012 07:08, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg> wrote:

> I agree with Edmon that we should do a conference call before Baku.
>
> At this stage, I would say that Keith's ideas that we need to have a
> discussion around the two sub-committees are sound.
>
> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
>
>
> Edmon,
> Between APrIGF 1 and 2, we had some requirements drawn up. Now with APrIGF
> 3, we should more or less have a final document on the requirements. I feel
> that is the heart of the issue. The additional requirements for announcing
> CFP would be relatively easier to execute. Perhaps you might suggest what
> these would be as dotAsia would be the Secretariat.
>
>
> Izumi,
> You had been the one giving several good suggestions re the MSG. Perhaps
> you might share your ideas. Bulleted points would be good enough.
>
> Regards,
> Peng Hwa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia [mailto:
> rigf_program-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Wu Kuo
> Sent: Monday, 3 September, 2012 7:29 PM
> To: Edmon Chung
> Cc: rigf_program at ap.rigf.asia
> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>
> But we have to have a draft procedure and agenda for the conference call,
> any comment?
>
> Kuo Wu
>
> Edmon Chung 於 2012/9/3 下午6:10 寫道：
>
> > I would like to suggest having a conference call before Baku to talk a
> bit about this.
> > If others agree... perhaps will send around a doodle to try something
> late next week (Sep 12/13/14) or early the week of Sep 17th.
> > Edmon
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia
> > [mailto:rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Wu Kuo
> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 3:56 PM
> > To: Ang Hwa Peng
> > Cc: rigf_program at ap.rigf.asia
> > Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
> >
> > Dr. Sir of KISA, Korea will be IGF Baku meeting. So we have more people
> in Baku for the meeting (I just received his message).
> >
> > Kuo Wu
> >
> > Izumi AIZU 於 2012/9/2 下午12:55 寫道：
> >
> >> Indonesian Government person is Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono.
> >>
> >> He is on the IGF MAG, and I believe trying to host global IGF in
> >> 2013, am not sure if that is 100% confirmed, but highly likely.  He
> >> has two
> >> hats:
> >>
> >> Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono
> >> Executive Team Member of the National ICT Council, Republic of
> Indonesia.
> >>
> >> Director of Postgraduate Program,
> >> Budi Luhur University,
> >> Jakarta, Indonesia.
> >>
> >> We sent invitation letter to him for this year's APrIGF, and due to
> >> late invitation/planning, he wanted but could not join.
> >>
> >> I don't think Indonesia will host one global and one regional in the
> >> same year or consecutively, but I think it is better to let them be
> >> inside the loop for APrIGF (among others).
> >>
> >> izumi
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/9/2 Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>:
> >>> That is exactly what I had heard about KISA and SKs commitment.It is
> >>> the reason that I was pointing this out because within IGF related
> >>> activities, any body that takes up a regional IGF activity should
> >>> also build up the stakeholder confidence and trust in its processes
> >>> so that a legitimacy may be sustainably established.
> >>>
> >>> India's interest can be confirmed and kept for 2014 so that they
> >>> also have time to commit and prepare. If you take the APrIGF to
> >>> South Asia, then there will have to be considerable effort to
> >>> convince and bring in South Asian governments, academic, civil
> >>> society, researchers, private sector. The cooperation basis in that
> >>> region is very tense due to the war on terror and other
> >>> inter-regional issues that have been part of a strained history of
> >>> relations. It would also mean to convince SAARC the South Asian
> >>> Association Regional Cooperation into the process.
> >>>
> >>> One thing that is missing from the APrIGF as Parminder had also
> >>> pointed out is both balanced representation of stakeholder groups in
> >>> the process while I also believe in Prof Peng's stance that new
> >>> things take time to build up but if the proper combined effort is
> >>> made this can be achieved.
> >>>
> >>> I can even organize a APrIGF in Pakistan but without having a local
> >>> commitment to the IGF process does not enable a successful
> >>> cooperation for that to happen between all the stakeholder groups so
> >>> as Paul also points out, there needs to be a detailed level of
> >>> commitment and clarity in purpose of the process legitimizing the MSG
> participation.
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>>
> >>> FoOodafied!
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ching Chiao <chiao at registry.asia>
> wrote:
> >>>> Dear all -- I've worked with KISA for a successful APNG Camp last
> >>>> month in Seoul. As Dr. Sir told me -- the budget of 2013 APrIGF in
> >>>> Korea has been booked and keep in mind they are a government agency
> >>>> therefore the commitment is 200% there (the other 100% is that if
> >>>> the meeting is not happening there will be a consequence). On the
> >>>> other hand, I remember when I helped chair the AP* meeting earlier
> >>>> this year in New Delhi, we did talk about recognizing Korea's
> >>>> interest back then and we thank them for give ways to Japan for
> >>>> this year's meeting (and at that time KISA does not have a meeting
> proposal).
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not know if YJ Park is on this list. I know she's been
> >>>> involved in Korean IGF and is the main international contact. Ms.
> >>>> Jin from KISA was also assigned to prepare for IGF.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ching
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi, yes, I will be in Baku and willing to join the meeting, and I
> >>>>> also agree with Paul and others that it's time for us to define
> >>>>> the process in an open manner - so as not to be blamed yet again -
> >>>>> for selection of the next venue and also define ourselves - who
> >>>>> are organizing the APrIGF under which terms and conditions, again
> >>>>> this should be open and transparent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> izumi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2012/9/2 Keith Davidson <keith at internetnz.net.nz>:
> >>>>>> Hi Peng Hwa, all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will be in Baku and support the idea of getting together to
> discuss.
> >>>>>> Perhaps we should concentrate on establishing 2 sub committees of
> >>>>>> the main group, to deal specifically with:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
> >>>>>> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And perhaps establishing a charter for these sub committees ??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While it has been great not to have to be confined by rules and
> >>>>>> regulations since our inception, it does appear that we will have
> >>>>>> to have more robust and transparent processes for the future.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Keith
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 31/08/2012 5:12 p.m., Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
> >>>>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just
> >>>>>>> two of us.
> >>>>>>> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
> >>>>>>> hosting out. That was Wednesday.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
> >>>>>>> Government of India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed
> >>>>>>> interest to host the 2013 APrIGF in India. Some people here at
> >>>>>>> the APNIC conference seem to suggest that India would make a
> >>>>>>> better choice. The South Asia region would be more likely to
> >>>>>>> attend.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
> >>>>>>> prompt the South Koreans to respond.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
> >>>>>>> opportunity to iron out the civil society process issues. But it
> >>>>>>> would be best to get the bid documents out and then get a firm
> >>>>>>> decision at Baku in early November. Having lived in India, I am
> >>>>>>> a bit concerned that they may need more time should they win the
> >>>>>>> bid.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Peng Hwa
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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