[Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)
TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg
Tue Sep 4 18:36:58 HKT 2012
No worries. Do whichever you are comfortable with.
Thanks for doing it.
Regards,
Peng Hwa
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Will send out a doodle for the meeting.
On CFP (I usually use RFP :-P but I see why "C") Yannis and I will compile something for consideration.
Edmon
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I agree with Edmon that we should do a conference call before Baku.
At this stage, I would say that Keith's ideas that we need to have a discussion around the two sub-committees are sound.
- Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
- Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
Edmon,
Between APrIGF 1 and 2, we had some requirements drawn up. Now with APrIGF 3, we should more or less have a final document on the requirements. I feel that is the heart of the issue. The additional requirements for announcing CFP would be relatively easier to execute. Perhaps you might suggest what these would be as dotAsia would be the Secretariat.
Izumi,
You had been the one giving several good suggestions re the MSG. Perhaps you might share your ideas. Bulleted points would be good enough.
Regards,
Peng Hwa
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But we have to have a draft procedure and agenda for the conference call, any comment?
Kuo Wu
Edmon Chung 於 2012/9/3 下午6:10 寫道：
> I would like to suggest having a conference call before Baku to talk a bit about this.
> If others agree... perhaps will send around a doodle to try something late next week (Sep 12/13/14) or early the week of Sep 17th.
> Edmon
>
>
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> [mailto:rigf_secretariat-bounces at ap.rigf.asia] On Behalf Of Wu Kuo
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 3:56 PM
> To: Ang Hwa Peng
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> Dr. Sir of KISA, Korea will be IGF Baku meeting. So we have more people in Baku for the meeting (I just received his message).
>
> Kuo Wu
>
> Izumi AIZU 於 2012/9/2 下午12:55 寫道：
>
>> Indonesian Government person is Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono.
>>
>> He is on the IGF MAG, and I believe trying to host global IGF in
>> 2013, am not sure if that is 100% confirmed, but highly likely. He
>> has two
>> hats:
>>
>> Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono
>> Executive Team Member of the National ICT Council, Republic of Indonesia.
>>
>> Director of Postgraduate Program,
>> Budi Luhur University,
>> Jakarta, Indonesia.
>>
>> We sent invitation letter to him for this year's APrIGF, and due to
>> late invitation/planning, he wanted but could not join.
>>
>> I don't think Indonesia will host one global and one regional in the
>> same year or consecutively, but I think it is better to let them be
>> inside the loop for APrIGF (among others).
>>
>> izumi
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/2 Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>:
>>> That is exactly what I had heard about KISA and SKs commitment.It is
>>> the reason that I was pointing this out because within IGF related
>>> activities, any body that takes up a regional IGF activity should
>>> also build up the stakeholder confidence and trust in its processes
>>> so that a legitimacy may be sustainably established.
>>>
>>> India's interest can be confirmed and kept for 2014 so that they
>>> also have time to commit and prepare. If you take the APrIGF to
>>> South Asia, then there will have to be considerable effort to
>>> convince and bring in South Asian governments, academic, civil
>>> society, researchers, private sector. The cooperation basis in that
>>> region is very tense due to the war on terror and other
>>> inter-regional issues that have been part of a strained history of
>>> relations. It would also mean to convince SAARC the South Asian
>>> Association Regional Cooperation into the process.
>>>
>>> One thing that is missing from the APrIGF as Parminder had also
>>> pointed out is both balanced representation of stakeholder groups in
>>> the process while I also believe in Prof Peng's stance that new
>>> things take time to build up but if the proper combined effort is
>>> made this can be achieved.
>>>
>>> I can even organize a APrIGF in Pakistan but without having a local
>>> commitment to the IGF process does not enable a successful
>>> cooperation for that to happen between all the stakeholder groups so
>>> as Paul also points out, there needs to be a detailed level of
>>> commitment and clarity in purpose of the process legitimizing the MSG participation.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> FoOodafied!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ching Chiao <chiao at registry.asia> wrote:
>>>> Dear all -- I've worked with KISA for a successful APNG Camp last
>>>> month in Seoul. As Dr. Sir told me -- the budget of 2013 APrIGF in
>>>> Korea has been booked and keep in mind they are a government agency
>>>> therefore the commitment is 200% there (the other 100% is that if
>>>> the meeting is not happening there will be a consequence). On the
>>>> other hand, I remember when I helped chair the AP* meeting earlier
>>>> this year in New Delhi, we did talk about recognizing Korea's
>>>> interest back then and we thank them for give ways to Japan for
>>>> this year's meeting (and at that time KISA does not have a meeting proposal).
>>>>
>>>> I do not know if YJ Park is on this list. I know she's been
>>>> involved in Korean IGF and is the main international contact. Ms.
>>>> Jin from KISA was also assigned to prepare for IGF.
>>>>
>>>> Ching
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, yes, I will be in Baku and willing to join the meeting, and I
>>>>> also agree with Paul and others that it's time for us to define
>>>>> the process in an open manner - so as not to be blamed yet again -
>>>>> for selection of the next venue and also define ourselves - who
>>>>> are organizing the APrIGF under which terms and conditions, again
>>>>> this should be open and transparent.
>>>>>
>>>>> izumi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/9/2 Keith Davidson <keith at internetnz.net.nz>:
>>>>>> Hi Peng Hwa, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be in Baku and support the idea of getting together to discuss.
>>>>>> Perhaps we should concentrate on establishing 2 sub committees of
>>>>>> the main group, to deal specifically with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
>>>>>> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And perhaps establishing a charter for these sub committees ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While it has been great not to have to be confined by rules and
>>>>>> regulations since our inception, it does appear that we will have
>>>>>> to have more robust and transparent processes for the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/08/2012 5:12 p.m., Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just
>>>>>>> two of us.
>>>>>>> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
>>>>>>> hosting out. That was Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
>>>>>>> Government of India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed
>>>>>>> interest to host the 2013 APrIGF in India. Some people here at
>>>>>>> the APNIC conference seem to suggest that India would make a
>>>>>>> better choice. The South Asia region would be more likely to
>>>>>>> attend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
>>>>>>> prompt the South Koreans to respond.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
>>>>>>> opportunity to iron out the civil society process issues. But it
>>>>>>> would be best to get the bid documents out and then get a firm
>>>>>>> decision at Baku in early November. Having lived in India, I am
>>>>>>> a bit concerned that they may need more time should they win the
>>>>>>> bid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Peng Hwa
>>>>>>>
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