[Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
Wu Kuo
kuoweiwu at gmail.com
Mon Sep 3 19:29:21 HKT 2012
But we have to have a draft procedure and agenda for the conference call, any comment?
Kuo Wu
Edmon Chung 於 2012/9/3 下午6:10 寫道：
> I would like to suggest having a conference call before Baku to talk a bit about this.
> If others agree... perhaps will send around a doodle to try something late next week (Sep 12/13/14) or early the week of Sep 17th.
> Edmon
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> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 3:56 PM
> To: Ang Hwa Peng
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> Subject: Re: [Rigf_program] APrIGF 2013--India is interested
>
> Dr. Sir of KISA, Korea will be IGF Baku meeting. So we have more people in Baku for the meeting (I just received his message).
>
> Kuo Wu
>
> Izumi AIZU 於 2012/9/2 下午12:55 寫道：
>
>> Indonesian Government person is Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono.
>>
>> He is on the IGF MAG, and I believe trying to host global IGF in 2013,
>> am not sure if that is 100% confirmed, but highly likely. He has two
>> hats:
>>
>> Dr. Sardjoeni Moedjiono
>> Executive Team Member of the National ICT Council, Republic of Indonesia.
>>
>> Director of Postgraduate Program,
>> Budi Luhur University,
>> Jakarta, Indonesia.
>>
>> We sent invitation letter to him for this year's APrIGF, and due to
>> late invitation/planning, he wanted but could not join.
>>
>> I don't think Indonesia will host one global and one regional in the
>> same year or consecutively, but I think it is better to let them be
>> inside the loop for APrIGF (among others).
>>
>> izumi
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/2 Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>:
>>> That is exactly what I had heard about KISA and SKs commitment.It is
>>> the reason that I was pointing this out because within IGF related
>>> activities, any body that takes up a regional IGF activity should
>>> also build up the stakeholder confidence and trust in its processes
>>> so that a legitimacy may be sustainably established.
>>>
>>> India's interest can be confirmed and kept for 2014 so that they also
>>> have time to commit and prepare. If you take the APrIGF to South
>>> Asia, then there will have to be considerable effort to convince and
>>> bring in South Asian governments, academic, civil society,
>>> researchers, private sector. The cooperation basis in that region is
>>> very tense due to the war on terror and other inter-regional issues
>>> that have been part of a strained history of relations. It would also
>>> mean to convince SAARC the South Asian Association Regional
>>> Cooperation into the process.
>>>
>>> One thing that is missing from the APrIGF as Parminder had also
>>> pointed out is both balanced representation of stakeholder groups in
>>> the process while I also believe in Prof Peng's stance that new
>>> things take time to build up but if the proper combined effort is
>>> made this can be achieved.
>>>
>>> I can even organize a APrIGF in Pakistan but without having a local
>>> commitment to the IGF process does not enable a successful
>>> cooperation for that to happen between all the stakeholder groups so
>>> as Paul also points out, there needs to be a detailed level of
>>> commitment and clarity in purpose of the process legitimizing the MSG participation.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> FoOodafied!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Ching Chiao <chiao at registry.asia> wrote:
>>>> Dear all -- I've worked with KISA for a successful APNG Camp last
>>>> month in Seoul. As Dr. Sir told me -- the budget of 2013 APrIGF in
>>>> Korea has been booked and keep in mind they are a government agency
>>>> therefore the commitment is 200% there (the other 100% is that if
>>>> the meeting is not happening there will be a consequence). On the
>>>> other hand, I remember when I helped chair the AP* meeting earlier
>>>> this year in New Delhi, we did talk about recognizing Korea's
>>>> interest back then and we thank them for give ways to Japan for this
>>>> year's meeting (and at that time KISA does not have a meeting proposal).
>>>>
>>>> I do not know if YJ Park is on this list. I know she's been involved
>>>> in Korean IGF and is the main international contact. Ms. Jin from
>>>> KISA was also assigned to prepare for IGF.
>>>>
>>>> Ching
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, yes, I will be in Baku and willing to join the meeting, and I
>>>>> also agree with Paul and others that it's time for us to define the
>>>>> process in an open manner - so as not to be blamed yet again - for
>>>>> selection of the next venue and also define ourselves - who are
>>>>> organizing the APrIGF under which terms and conditions, again this
>>>>> should be open and transparent.
>>>>>
>>>>> izumi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/9/2 Keith Davidson <keith at internetnz.net.nz>:
>>>>>> Hi Peng Hwa, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be in Baku and support the idea of getting together to discuss.
>>>>>> Perhaps we should concentrate on establishing 2 sub committees of
>>>>>> the main group, to deal specifically with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Sub committee 1 - Meeting hosting procedures
>>>>>> - Sub committee 2 - MSG composition and appointments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And perhaps establishing a charter for these sub committees ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While it has been great not to have to be confined by rules and
>>>>>> regulations since our inception, it does appear that we will have
>>>>>> to have more robust and transparent processes for the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/08/2012 5:12 p.m., Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I met Kuo-Wei to discuss the APrIGF process but there were just
>>>>>>> two of us.
>>>>>>> What we concluded was that it was essential to get the call for
>>>>>>> hosting out. That was Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Friday morning I met Dr. Govind, senior director of the
>>>>>>> Government of India's Ministry of CIT, because he expressed
>>>>>>> interest to host the 2013 APrIGF in India. Some people here at
>>>>>>> the APNIC conference seem to suggest that India would make a
>>>>>>> better choice. The South Asia region would be more likely to
>>>>>>> attend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to get the bid document out to them soon. And of course
>>>>>>> prompt the South Koreans to respond.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A number of us will be at the IGF at Baku. We should take the
>>>>>>> opportunity to iron out the civil society process issues. But it
>>>>>>> would be best to get the bid documents out and then get a firm
>>>>>>> decision at Baku in early November. Having lived in India, I am a
>>>>>>> bit concerned that they may need more time should they win the
>>>>>>> bid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Peng Hwa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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