[Rigf_program] Fwd: Look forward to see you in Tokyo.... and session M4

Wed Jul 11 17:10:57 HKT 2012

quick poll: Google are ok with the suggested change but defer to others on
making the decision and fully understand if it's not changed.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Yoshihiro Obata <ObataYoshihiro at eaccess.net
> wrote:

> Dear MSG members,
>
>   As I stated before, I do not like to change it at this stage without
> your majority support.  Since we are at the final stage of working for
> printing materials, we need it very soon.
>   If we do not see many responses by the end of today, I would like to
> propose a quick poll tomorrow by Peng Hwa or a chairman's decision and fix
> the issue by the end of tomorrow.
>
> Sincerely,
> Yoshihiro Obata
>
> (2012/07/11 17:20), Adam Peake wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> Pablo's right "pertaining to the Internet" is redundant in the title.
>> Suggest title as either
>>
>> (1) "International Public Policy and Internet Governance"
>>
>> or
>>
>> (2) "International Public Policy Issues Pertaining to the Internet"
>>
>> And given the ITU council working group named "international
>> Internet-related public policy issues", the first of those names
>> probably better.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Pablo Hinojosa <pablo at apnic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Yoshiro Obata,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your message. Not the purpose of my message to bring
>>> confusion.
>>>
>>> Great to be proved wrong that the title doesn't imply supporting
>>> activities such as the closed ITU CWG-Internet. This is good news.
>>>
>>> I guess we all agree that the current multistakeholder model is the one
>>> that we need to care for and promote its evolution within this
>>> framework. I offered an alternative title, but I am open to any
>>> suggestions. Perhaps title can be "Evolution of the current Internet
>>> governance model"?
>>>
>>> My point is that the current title is heavily charged with the ITU
>>> connotation and the implication of "Internet Governance issues
>>> pertaining to the Internet" doesn't make much sense.
>>>
>>> Pablo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/07/12 5:49 PM, Yoshihiro Obata wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear German and Pablo,
>>>>
>>>>     I am a little confused.
>>>>     As far as I understand, the session covers many UN like activities
>>>> which are trying to manage the Internet.  Basically, all of the speakers
>>>> are against such idea.  The reason why the title is such is that it is
>>>> the name for all of these activities.
>>>>     If you are suggesting that the title implies that it "supports" such
>>>> activity, that is a wrong assumption.  I think you need to read the
>>>> abstract of the session.
>>>>     Secondly, I do not think the presenters will propose any new
>>>> Internet
>>>> governance model so that your proposal of "evolution" may not fit well.
>>>>     I think what we want to stick with is the multistakeholder model as
>>>> it is right now.
>>>>
>>>>     Anyway, my understanding is that we let the coordinator propose
>>>> their
>>>> session title unless their is a conflict or confusion with other
>>>> sessions or the majority of the MSG think that the title does not fit
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>     I do not have any strong position on the change but I do not support
>>>> nor refuse the change for the reasons above.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Yoshihiro Obata
>>>>
>>>> (2012/07/11 16:23), German Valdez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm forwarding this message to the list on behalf of Pablo Hinojosa.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please if you need to reply include Pablo in the cc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> German
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: Look forward to see you in Tokyo.... and session M4
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:12:07 +1000
>>>>>> From: Pablo Hinojosa <pablo at apnic.net <mailto:pablo at apnic.net>>
>>>>>> To: program at ap.rigf.asia <mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello from APNIC,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope all is well. I look forward to meet you next week at the APrIGF
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Tokyo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not been involved in the discussions that lead to the
>>>>>> preparation
>>>>>> of the forum, although some of my colleagues in APNIC have. When we
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> preparing our participation for next week, the following issue caught
>>>>>> our attention. It is the title of panel M4: "International Public
>>>>>> Policy
>>>>>> and Internet Governance Issues Pertaining to the Internet"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First thing is that I would be interested to attend this session and I
>>>>>> am sure there will be a rich discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I noticed that the title of the session is a bit strange and
>>>>>> wondered if it refers to, for example, the ITU's Council Working Group
>>>>>> on international Internet-related public policy issues (CWG-Internet):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.itu.int/council/**groups/CWG-internet/index.html<http://www.itu.int/council/groups/CWG-internet/index.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And also if there are Internet governance issues that *does not*
>>>>>> pertain
>>>>>> to the Internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wonder if, even at this late stage, there could be a consideration to
>>>>>> change the title of this session, for example, to: "evolution of
>>>>>> Internet governance models"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Pablo Hinojosa
>>>>>> APNIC
>>>>>> +61430147274
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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