[Rigf_program] Fwd: Look forward to see you in Tokyo.... and session M4

[Adam Peake]

Hi everyone.

Pablo's right "pertaining to the Internet" is redundant in the title.
Suggest title as either

(1) "International Public Policy and Internet Governance"

or

(2) "International Public Policy Issues Pertaining to the Internet"

And given the ITU council working group named "international
Internet-related public policy issues", the first of those names
probably better.

Adam


On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Pablo Hinojosa <pablo at apnic.net> wrote:
> Dear Yoshiro Obata,
>
> Thank you for your message. Not the purpose of my message to bring
> confusion.
>
> Great to be proved wrong that the title doesn't imply supporting
> activities such as the closed ITU CWG-Internet. This is good news.
>
> I guess we all agree that the current multistakeholder model is the one
> that we need to care for and promote its evolution within this
> framework. I offered an alternative title, but I am open to any
> suggestions. Perhaps title can be "Evolution of the current Internet
> governance model"?
>
> My point is that the current title is heavily charged with the ITU
> connotation and the implication of "Internet Governance issues
> pertaining to the Internet" doesn't make much sense.
>
> Pablo
>
>
> On 11/07/12 5:49 PM, Yoshihiro Obata wrote:
>> Dear German and Pablo,
>>
>>    I am a little confused.
>>    As far as I understand, the session covers many UN like activities
>> which are trying to manage the Internet.  Basically, all of the speakers
>> are against such idea.  The reason why the title is such is that it is
>> the name for all of these activities.
>>    If you are suggesting that the title implies that it "supports" such
>> activity, that is a wrong assumption.  I think you need to read the
>> abstract of the session.
>>    Secondly, I do not think the presenters will propose any new Internet
>> governance model so that your proposal of "evolution" may not fit well.
>>    I think what we want to stick with is the multistakeholder model as
>> it is right now.
>>
>>    Anyway, my understanding is that we let the coordinator propose their
>> session title unless their is a conflict or confusion with other
>> sessions or the majority of the MSG think that the title does not fit well.
>>
>>    I do not have any strong position on the change but I do not support
>> nor refuse the change for the reasons above.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Yoshihiro Obata
>>
>> (2012/07/11 16:23), German Valdez wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm forwarding this message to the list on behalf of Pablo Hinojosa.
>>>
>>> Please if you need to reply include Pablo in the cc.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> German
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Look forward to see you in Tokyo.... and session M4
>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:12:07 +1000
>>>> From: Pablo Hinojosa <pablo at apnic.net <mailto:pablo at apnic.net>>
>>>> To: program at ap.rigf.asia <mailto:program at ap.rigf.asia>
>>>>
>>>> Hello from APNIC,
>>>>
>>>> Hope all is well. I look forward to meet you next week at the APrIGF in
>>>> Tokyo.
>>>>
>>>> I have not been involved in the discussions that lead to the preparation
>>>> of the forum, although some of my colleagues in APNIC have. When we were
>>>> preparing our participation for next week, the following issue caught
>>>> our attention. It is the title of panel M4: "International Public Policy
>>>> and Internet Governance Issues Pertaining to the Internet"
>>>>
>>>> First thing is that I would be interested to attend this session and I
>>>> am sure there will be a rich discussion.
>>>>
>>>> However, I noticed that the title of the session is a bit strange and
>>>> wondered if it refers to, for example, the ITU's Council Working Group
>>>> on international Internet-related public policy issues (CWG-Internet):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.itu.int/council/groups/CWG-internet/index.html
>>>>
>>>> And also if there are Internet governance issues that *does not* pertain
>>>> to the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder if, even at this late stage, there could be a consideration to
>>>> change the title of this session, for example, to: "evolution of
>>>> Internet governance models"?
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Pablo Hinojosa
>>>> APNIC
>>>> +61430147274
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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